Odd request....store near Berryessa...

Sane_Man

Totally Tubular
cantstopdriftin said:
Anal consumers irk me. I understand wanting good service, good product etc.

I seriously spent like 45 minutes once correcting a one-time 10 cent charge on someones account. I offered the guy a dime out of my pocket to resolve it but he wanted it to be credited back to his account. Waste of time over something so trivial.

Dude, two words: Air Miles. :x
 

Kalvin00

Well-known member
Lol. Any good business owner knows that it is against the policy, and has to deal with it whether he likes it or not. They can play by the rules or not :)
 

planegray

Redwood Original
Staff member
Kalvin00 said:
Lol. Any good business owner knows that it is against the policy, and has to deal with it whether he likes it or not. They can play by the rules or not :)


Here's some clues:

Please refrain from pissing in the pool that other motorcylists swim in.

and

If you leave the house unprepared (NO cash), don't make someone else suffer for your mistake

and

The ONLY way you are allowed to become self-rightous about rule breaking is if you NEVER break one yourself.
 

Kalvin00

Well-known member
:laughing

Don't get mad at me....be mad at the guy who is angry that he has to pay 5cents off my transaction back to the company, which is something he AGREED to.
 

Bad Dad

Laughing at the hypocrisy
You sure are short sighted.

If you think that teh total cost of a credit card transaction is simply the 5cents they charge him for your grape nehi, then you really don't know anything about business.
 

Sane_Man

Totally Tubular
Kalvin00 said:
:laughing

Don't get mad at me....be mad at the guy who is angry that he has to pay 5cents off my transaction back to the company, which is something he AGREED to.

When faced with a minimum payment, I would have bought drinks for my crew, or an extra drink for the road.

I guess I'll have to go back and look at your first post, but what did you end up doing?

Did you cry about it and nearly die from thirst, or did you shit out a couple of dolla's? :confused







No clue why you left home without cash though. What if they only had vending machines, would you have bitched about that too?
 

Kalvin00

Well-known member
No---that is the whole reason I was pissed to begin with--I couldn't do ANYTHING with a card under $5! Not even if I paid his absurd $2 fee!

I bought something when I got back to Middletown...

edit: I don't normally carry cash---any place I go to is most likely going to take plastic.
 

*Tina*

Fuck off
Shotline said:
You are kidding right?:wtf

Do me a favor......if you are ever in Idaho, don't come in my store. Nobody needs customers like you.

This guy has a store out in the middle of nowhere, and you want to have a fit because he doesn't want to lose money? Do you know how much a retailer needs to make in order to cover credit card fees? Depending on their margin it can be anywhere from $3 to $7. So the guy is trying to make a living and you want to be all pissy because he has established rules for his business that go counter to the CC companies?

I though everyone was against the big corporations and for the little guy? Everyone except you I guess.....:hand


:applause

Plus the guy is only open minimal hours during the off season and the rent up there is pretty high. This is a guy that runs the shop on his own most days cuz no one is willing to drive that far to work for a small, albeit busy lil store.

I've never had a problem with minimum requirements at small places like this. Couldnt you have taken cash from a couple friends and put their drinks on your card ?? Would have saved everyone involved the pain in the ass.
 

Shotline

Well-known member
Kalvin00 said:
:laughing

Don't get mad at me....be mad at the guy who is angry that he has to pay 5cents off my transaction back to the company, which is something he AGREED to.

You really have no idea what you are talking about do you.

Visa alone is .12 cpt (cents per transaction) PLUS 2% of the total purchase.

So, lets calculate this out......at your purchase of what, say $2.00, that makes a credit card transaction cost of $.14. Subtract sales tax (CA is what 8%, so that is $.16), add the cost of the product (not sure what you were buying but margin on a regular soda is about 25%) say 1.04.

So, if we take

cogs 1.04
sell 1.38

at 25% margin $.34 is gross profit

So we have 34 cents to work with. Now, subtract the CC fee of 14 cents. Mr. Retailer now has a gross profit of 20 cents. Now try subtracting all his costs, rent, insurance, employee pay (even if the owner runs it himself he has to have some money to live on). When you factor all his expenses in he is losing money on your little $2.00 purchase.

I am guessing that this person has calculated out that on an average credit card purchase his break even is $5.00.

You can bitch and whine all you want but your anger should be directed at the credit card companies, not at the retailer.

But hey, go ahead and get this guy in trouble (if you can), the result will be you won't have anywhere to buy a drink out there. Maybe the will open up a Wal-Mart on that corner for you.:hand
 

Kalvin00

Well-known member
Sure, there's still that corner store a few miles down the road.....



I don't give two shits about his profit margins. The fact is this: I as a cardholder have the right, where MC is accepted, to use my card free of minimums or surcharges. If he wants to take cash only...that's his right.
 
Kalvin00 said:


The fact is this: I as a cardholder have the right, where MC is accepted, to use my card free of minimums or surcharges. If he wants to take cash only...that's his right.

There are many injustices in the world. This one isn't worthy of raising a stink over. If the man doesn't want your business, it's his right too. Pretty small margins for most of these mom-and-pop places... Carry some cash, or don't go back there. Middletown is just a few minutes down the road. It ain't that far :twofinger
 

planegray

Redwood Original
Staff member
Kalvin00 said:
Sure, there's still that corner store a few miles down the road.....



I don't give two shits about his profit margins. The fact is this: I as a cardholder have the right, where MC is accepted, to use my card free of minimums or surcharges. If he wants to take cash only...that's his right.


ok, NOW I get the picture....

you feel YOU have entitlements, but no one else does.....ok, that's one way to look at the world, let us know how that works out for you....



.....oh wait !!
 

daventura

wants you to stop smoking
Thanks for making sure they hold up to their end of the bargain.

:teeth

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Shotline

Well-known member
Kalvin00 said:
Sure, there's still that corner store a few miles down the road.....



I don't give two shits about his profit margins. The fact is this: I as a cardholder have the right, where MC is accepted, to use my card free of minimums or surcharges. If he wants to take cash only...that's his right.

Thats right, it's all about you. As long as you get yours, screw everyone else.

You're selfish.
 

masameet

Rawr!
The OP's thread reminds me how early this past Sat. morning I stopped to get gas. The gas station doesn't post a credit card minimum at its pump stations. Since my DRZ's stock tank on a good day can take almost 2 gals., that morning my gas bill came to a bit over a gal. -- $3.87. Since I was in a hurry, I used my Visa card. And I wanted a receipt. But the machine said I had to get it from the clerk. OK. So I go in and ask the counter guy for a receipt. Which he gives me. Several hours later, while I'm at Marin Cycleworks, my card gets refused. Why? The gas guy ended up dinking my card for two $15 charges. Maybe he made a mistake. Since it turned out that he's the store manager, it's kinda unlikely. My bank's computer system burped out, How can this card holder possibly buy two $15 worth of gas from the same gas station. So my bank put a hold on my card.

Fuck it. If small business owners can't swallow an occasional low cc charge, then they're selfish. And if they can't charge their customers the right dollar amount instead of a minimum promissory amount, I think that's awfully un-American.
 

Kalvin00

Well-known member
Wow, someone with sense finally posts in my thread. Took long enough.

It's the cost of running a small business. Like I said, either he can raise prices and give a cash discount, or just refuse cards altogether.

I know a man who owns a gas station/small store....he hates it when people charge a 99cent purchase, but guess what? He has to deal with it, because it is his choice to give his customers the convenience of using plastic.
 

Kalvin00

Well-known member
Lester Green said:
so did you have the balls to tell him that you were gonna report him while you were there?

No. I mentioned what he was doing was against policy, he said 'Oh well. I do it.' I turned around and walked out.
 

wazzuFreddo

WuTang is 4 the children
rollin without cash is rollin the dice.

when things go horribly wrong away from home it is always nice to pull out a few greenbacks and make something happen.
 
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