New Muni buses can't go up hills

[wazzuFreddo]

I guess someone at MUNI left performance on hills out of the RFQ/procurement process for their new trolley busses. Whoops. :laughing

http://sfist.com/2016/02/29/new_muni_buses_cant_handle_san_fran.php

 

[Sharky]

nothing like bureaucracy at work. Wonder what the carbon footprint looks like when they have to rebuild the drive trains twice as often.

 

[Tharkûn]

Good, bureaucratic idiots

 

[m_asim]

Follow the money.

P.S. I am pretty sure nobody will find who made the decision to waste tax payers' money here.

 

[Bay Arean]

In a city with enlightened progressive values? Impossible.

 

[GAJ]

Dear fucking lord.

 

[aminalmutha]

 

[Bay Arean]

Heads may roll, but not uphill.

 

[wazzuFreddo]

Follow the money.

P.S. I am pretty sure nobody will find who made the decision to waste tax payers' money here.

Heads may roll, but not uphill.

I'm sure it is an operational situation nobody on the team could have ever foreseen.

 

[carries an axe]

Heads may roll, but not uphill.

Aaaaaaaahahaaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!:laughing

 

[russ69]

I'm sure it is an operational situation nobody on the team could have ever foreseen.

I guess they never heard of a test drive before you buy? You know, so you don't buy something that doesn't suit your needs.

 

[Blankpage]

New Flyer Industries, the maker of the buses, is based in Winnipeg and their stock has been on the roll the past year. I've been watching it for a while and figured I missed the easy money but it just kept climbing. No doubt helped by this SF contract.

Someone on each side had to be aware of this. They can't all be that incompetent.

 

[wazzuFreddo]

I bet the supplier has buried in their contract language about the type of grade the buses can handle.

"Bummer, we'll have to sell you the upgraded version for another $100k a unit."

But I am a cynic.

 

[aminalmutha]

"Oh, you wanted it to go up your hill WITH passengers and a full tank of fuel? Without t3h NAWWWWWWWWWWS!? Sounds like you better get t3h NAAWWWWWS, then muthafukka."

 

[OldBlade]

You'alls needs wheelies

 

[bruceflinch]

Pretty sure the upgrade to NOS on an electric Trolley will be really expensive... :laughing

 

[frozenduc]

Pull the electro shit out, toss a 450 Cummins in it, problem solved.

 

[boney]

I've been recently educated in how things work for purchasing in San Francisco for a different agency. It is mind boggling how a specification that is written to meet necessary standards, in both performance and design, can be watered down and actually changed by another part of the city government (office of compliance) because one of the vendors is not capable of producing a vehicle to the original spec, even if several others are.

It is entirely possible that Flyer protested the original specifications and the office of compliance changed them so Flyer could bid. I'm not saying that happened here, but it has happened elsewhere in SF.:thumbdown

 

[boney]

Pull the electro shit out, toss a 450 Cummins in it, problem solved.

Not so fast... The emissions equipment on the new diesel engines are big, heavy, and restricting. A large portion of our new fleet has the latest Cummins in them, and they don't meet the performance standards either.

 

[Hawaiirider]

Just reverse the route and send them DOWN hill. Duh.

You're welcome.