Let's sing the praises of driver assistance and Teslas

blackrat

blackrat

Never late for work
Whammy said:
Cadillac's have the same feature on such equipped cars.
It should be mandatory on all cars to have the light in the mirror when something approaches your blind spot.
AKS Me how i know?
The Super Cruise also is way better than the tesla.
Yea I own and love Cadillacs.
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If I remember correctly I think Cadillac has the much safer driver awareness function. While we're getting article after article about people bypassing tesla's attentiveness monitor the Cadillac actually picks up your eyes and knows if you're not paying attention or looking away from the road. If this goes on for a preset amount of time it sounds a loud audible until releasing it out of autopilot and putting it back into manual mode.
 
Whammy

Whammy

Veteran of Road Racing
blackrat said:
If I remember correctly I think Cadillac has the much safer driver awareness function. While we're getting article after article about people bypassing tesla's attentiveness monitor the Cadillac actually picks up your eyes and knows if you're not paying attention or looking away from the road. If this goes on for a preset amount of time it sounds a loud audible until releasing it out of autopilot and putting it back into manual mode.
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Indeed. It will also rumble your seat to alert you of oncoming dangers such as too close a closing rate on the car in front of you, and adjust your speed accordingly.:thumbup
Not all roads are covered in Cadillac's Super Cruise as well.
 
bosco12

bosco12

Well-known member
Advanced Driver-Assistance Systems (ADAS)

I tend to find the slowest windy, roads possible to drive on; so I haven't been noticing how the advanced technology in newer cars affects my personal safety when riding.

I just saw this article today which I think is worth noting here, since it re-affirms a number of comments I have read on barf concerning adas vehicles, and the fact that they're never going to see us riding (or stopped) anywhere:

In recent years, a number of car companies have—like Tesla—begun offering driver assistance systems that offer lane-keeping as well as adaptive cruise control. This might seem like a big step toward a "self-driving car," since a system like this can travel down the freeway for miles without human intervention. But a new report from AAA underscores the limitations of these systems.

Its most dramatic finding: the advanced driver-assistance systems (ADAS) on the latest cars still struggle to avoid collisions with parked vehicles. They tested cars from BMW, Kia, and Subaru; none consistently avoided running into a fake car partially blocking the travel lane.
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New cars can stay in their lane—but might not stop for parked cars
Drivers complain of need for “constant monitoring and intervention.”
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/0...heir-lane-but-might-not-stop-for-parked-cars/
 
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davidji

bike curious
Cars with automatic driving features might not work too well in the rain when the sensors are wet.

Here's video from my commute last Winter of a Tesla that was driving on the left shoulder of 680S and glances off a Fitch Impact Attenuator Barrel as it swerves onto the freeway. I could hear the impact, but the camera didn't pick up the sound.

Tesla starts to appear on the left at 4 seconds. The car to my left brakes for the Tesla before you can see it.

Hard to make out the video, what with the rain on the windscreen. How well do you think the car's sensors are "seeing"?

youtu.be/LmxfE9gBxF0
 
tuxumino

tuxumino

purrfect
I treat teslas like white PU trucks and vans, extreme danger, watch out, expect them to do something stupid.
 
Blankpage

Blankpage

alien
I like the parking sensors on my car plus the adaptive cruise control. The lane keeping assist is almost worthless. Wish the auto breaking worked better, will look for that feature on the next car.
 
mrzuzzo

mrzuzzo

Well-known member
davidji said:
Cars with automatic driving features might not work too well in the rain when the sensors are wet.

Here's video from my commute last Winter of a Tesla that was driving on the left shoulder of 680S and glances off a Fitch Impact Attenuator Barrel as it swerves onto the freeway. I could hear the impact, but the camera didn't pick up the sound.

Tesla starts to appear on the left at 4 seconds. The car to my left brakes for the Tesla before you can see it.

Hard to make out the video, what with the rain on the windscreen. How well do you think the car's sensors are "seeing"?

youtu.be/LmxfE9gBxF0
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Huh?

Autopilot is disabled when there is heavy rain or low visibility.
 
mrzuzzo

mrzuzzo

Well-known member
TheRiddler said:
Kind of proves the point. The driver aids only work well in ideal conditions. Radar and cameras are terrible in rain or snow.
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Not really. They are about as terrible as your own eyes. The forward facing cameras are behind wipers. I doubt radar is significantly impacted by rain.

Autopilot works fine in rain but I think it's turned off in very heavy rain not because the cameras can't see, but because the cars aren't trained to slow down for those kind of conditions.
 
kxmike

kxmike

Well-known member
I bought a 2020 Subaru and it has the eyesight system which works pretty good. I can actually take my hands off the wheel and it will steer itself around a corner and brake if I get too close to another vehicle. I warns me with lights, ring tones and an image on the dash if I get too close to the center or shoulder lines...or a car is in the lane I want to move to. I really don't need the extra help (I'm a very alert driver) but it's nice to know its there for the idiots texting while driving! It's got to make a difference:thumbup.
 
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