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Jacob Shoemakers 650 Kawasaki Prepped for Spingfield
http://www.flattrackers.com/media.h...makers-kawasaki-650-ready-for-springfield-r23
http://www.flattrackers.com/media.h...makers-kawasaki-650-ready-for-springfield-r23
Just one Bad Ass Miler
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Ducky_Fresh
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Beauregard
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Cincinnatus
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Very nice... :thumbup
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This is a couple years old and regarding Brian Smiths #42 Kawi. In 2013 many of the top riders have turned to the 650 Kawasaki as the Mile Bike to go to. This Harley Killer on the Mile track has come full circle and earned its right to say I AM A CHAMPION :thumbup
http://www.flattrackers.com/media.html/_/race-video/kawasaki-650-flat-tracker-r12
http://www.flattrackers.com/media.html/_/race-video/kawasaki-650-flat-tracker-r12
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flying_hun
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Anyone could do this. If they had that bike.:laughing
Lou's got a point. When Bill Werner started racing the 650 (after tuning for decades for an HD hall of fame), he bought a motor and running gear off eBay, put it together, tuned it, and started racing. He's been several years in developing it, but the point is that it's far more possible to do what Lou is saying than it ever would be to put an XR750 on the street.
Not sure what frame that is on the bike in the first vid, but the bike in the second vid with Bryan Smith and Bill Werner sure looks stock, or at least stock-based. I think they won their first mile in a chassis like that.
I just wish Kawasaki would bite the bullet and give us an 800cc version with better running gear rather than the 1000cc I-4. That would be great!
arty
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:thumbup Best fun with your cloths on
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Lou's got a point. When Bill Werner started racing the 650 (after tuning for decades for an HD hall of fame), he bought a motor and running gear off eBay, put it together, tuned it, and started racing. He's been several years in developing it, but the point is that it's far more possible to do what Lou is saying than it ever would be to put an XR750 on the street.
Not sure what frame that is on the bike in the first vid, but the bike in the second vid with Bryan Smith and Bill Werner sure looks stock, or at least stock-based. I think they won their first mile in a chassis like that.
I just wish Kawasaki would bite the bullet and give us an 800cc version with better running gear rather than the 1000cc I-4. That would be great!
Most are C&J frames others are variants of tried and true such as Werners. You can get Kawi Roller framers from just about any shop building them now. Zannotii may be a good place in the Bay area.
The Engine itself, well that is another story, 180 cranks to start, cabs port polish, clutch and what ever mods to the cases. Believe it or not these bikes per the AMA rules are not as pumped up as some would think. Bore and Stroked some say just to 700 levels is sufficient for the HP it needs but who knows really but the guy sealing the cases :teeth
Back in the Day, Shell Thuett sold Yamaha 750 kits Head, Crank, Barrols Exhaust Trans. All you needed was a frame or a stock XS 650 rollor. Yamaha Motor even had the Engines and parts in the race catalog
Kawasaki is 100% behind this bike as well.
louemc
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Anyone could do this. If they had that bike.
Read the next post by Flying Hun...
Of course there are people on the planet that can't do anything...But...
This bike is not an overwhelming difficulty to get.
And the changes made are not difficult...except for the bikers that can't adjust their own chain slack....
and that technical tasking.
It works out pretty good...Nimrods can't do it, and they can't ride well enough to appreciate this thing they don't have, either...A match made in Heaven :laughing
These bikes came about, for Novice racers that didn't have any sponsors. Racers that raced on shoe-string budgets..did well to make entry fee's and keep tires on the bike.
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:thumbup :rofl
I have always wanted to get a SV using the stock frame and make a miler. Port Polish, front end 19s frnt rear, Woo Hoo
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What is going to be interesting is to see the Basic Twins Class next year. This is going to be one awesome spectical of garage Engineering
flying_hun
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So cool! That's exactly what US racing needs is more young riders getting great dirt track experience on their way up the ranks. XR's cost too much and singles have to be rebuilt too often. Garage twins may make it more affordable, thus more popular and competitive. That's what I hope for anyway. LONG LIVE CLASS C RACING!!!!
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Definitely some heavy modifications to how the shock linkage works and obviously he installed his own swingarm pivot, but looks like it is the same frame as the ER650N to me?
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flying_hun
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Looks like it is the same frame as the ER650N to me?
Yeah, that's Bryan Smith's bike, not the bike in the first vid. It looks like they've played around with shock location on that one even though it looks like the stock frame.
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Does the bike in the vid look like it has an ER650 frame?
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Ducky_Fresh
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Details?
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Basic Twins in a nutshell
These are the same motors and frames as the Expert Twins but the Modifications are not as drastic. Intake MM size is smaller, Cams, Compression and other items. In a nutshell it is going to be like a Sport class with the limits to Engine and some chassis.
In the 60s to late 70's AMA had Expert, Jr Expert and Novice, each class was designated to allow newbies to enjoy the race and learn, with variants of engine development.
http://www.amaproracing.com/ft/news/index.cfm?cid=56119
The new Basic Twins class is a re-envisioning of the Basic Expert Twins division that ran as part of the series during the 2007 and 2008 seasons. The same engines approved for competition in the Grand National Expert Twins class will be eligible in the Basic Twins class, but with varying levels of modification required in order for them to fit within a reduced performance envelope.
I will dig up the rule book later it is on my home laptop