IDEAS for BARF

canyonrat

Veteran Knee Dragger
Budman, I agree, BARF is very special. If I am correct it might also be the longest and oldest on going social media web site in the world...or in the top bracket for certain. I'm kicking an idea about. The idea is to help this younger generation of new riders. What I noticed over the years is when you look old, like a new riders father, they tend to not listen as well or take your advice as seriously. About 8 to 10 ten years ago I could still pass for late 20's. Young riders listened to me. Age has now come upon my looks and I look 50ish, and my advice has not been very useful or followed of late.

There could be a possibility of BARFers that could enter INSTAGRAM and spread knowledge. Could be INSTAGRAM users come and join BARF and gain the knowledge it has to offer. My concern is if we loose a generation of riders entering the world of riding, us old guys could fade out and then the next future generation would be left to reliving all the mayhem we all went through in the 1990's. The "next future" generation I speak of is just now being born, so when they hit 20 I'll be 72. It becomes a math issue.
 

Lewd_Ferrigno

Well-known member
My goal at SBN was never the money. It was about growing the sport and making riders safer.

That’s actually part of why I left.

The other reason is that moderators were concerned about fiefdom building, and not working.

That and one of the main mods sent pics of himself in assless chaps, after having been spanked, to numerous women.
 

Map8

I want nothing
Staff member
My goal at SBN was never the money. It was about growing the sport and making riders safer.

That’s actually part of why I left.

The other reason is that moderators were concerned about fiefdom building, and not working.

That and one of the main mods sent pics of himself in assless chaps, after having been spanked, to numerous women.

Don't give our mods any ideas.
 

dittoalex

Too much lean angle...
https://en.instagram-brand.com/#general said:
Keep the word Instagram consistent


  • Keep the letter "I" in Instagram capitalized and in same font size and style as the content surrounding it.

:party
 

Whammy

Veteran of Road Racing
Whammy don't do no Bookface, instawish or any other social media.

Teh Barfs is all the social media I need, and I don't need to like anything or check the little heart boxes.
I like it how it is and don't care for more of everything else.
Last thing I wanna do is scrolling through everyone's "like my bike" pictures.:twofinger
End of story.:thumbup
 

Pushrod

Well-known member
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

"Stop fixing things when you lose the original owner's manual and the last guy to like it won't talk to you."

"If you fix it so only you like it, you can't sell it later."

"Don't gild a lily."


(I have officially morphed into my grandfather, again)
 

Butch

poseur
Staff member
I heard on NPR that when you click on the “like” button anywhere, no matter who you are, ZuckerFaceGram gets your metadata.

Back on topic, BARF is an actual club, where folks do stuff with other members in the real world.

Yeah, I know, some folks use it for a bulletin board for a group of pals, but that works well when the group is small. Otherwise messages are lost in the noise...
 

NoobCorpse

Well-known member
Great comments gang. There is something to this INSTAGRAM thing. I am not recommending BARF become INSTAGRAM, but their format is really kinda cool and it definitely has the 20 somethings attention and interest. It is my prediction that if the true aspect of INSTAGRAM could be identified and that energy harnessed, it could not only help out motorcycle sites like BARF but also rekindle interest for more people to look into riding a motorcycle.

What I don't see on INSTAGRAM is any real helpful riding content...actually zero content.

All of us old riders know the commitment required to ride and joy it brings even though we have blood on or leathers.

What I don't see on INSTAGRAM is much content on crashes/crashing. The users seem to skip past that part of motorcycling. And I don't like to see pics and film of guys crashing, but I do like to see the discussion and learning that takes place after, and that is something that INSTAGRAM is missing.

I'll be continuing to post to INSTAGRAM but am gonna sneak in the things I speak of and see what the reaction is.

IG is all "living your best life" posts - you said it, there's no IG content for actual informative posts or media content. Youtube would probably be better, or a good old forum like this.
IMHO I think AdvRider is starting to cross the barrier of content delivery + forums, but the age-old problem is still (and always) going to be signal to noise ration. IG is all pretty pics driving ad revenue, and that's mostly what it'll always be.
 

Leaking Lewis

Well-known member
First off, Thanks Mark for posting something constructive and putting your ideas out there for everyone to take pot-shots (hey is that a thing?) at. You are addressing the fundamental problem the MC industry faces which is attracting new riders. You are completely correct in that BARF could be the "go to" place for anyone interested in taking up the sport. Yesterday I was talking to a millennial that recently purchased a Kawasaki 300 as her first bike. This is perfect right? Young and female, the demographic the industry needs. She told me she was going to sell her bike, felt it was too dangerous to ride because it didn't fit her and she felt insecure because she couldn't flat foot the bike at a stop. Buying a bike is not like buying a car. BARF could be a first stop when someone is thinking about entering the MC world
 

canyonrat

Veteran Knee Dragger
Thanks for the comments all. I'm not saying BARF is bad or anything like that. What I have come to see in the internet and world is how quickly things can go south.

Myspace - number one to nearly gone in 6 months.

AOL - number one to slow slip and gone. Many websites still have their instent messenger icon.

Tube TV's - 5 year window, 99.9999% gone.

DVD players - 2 years window, nearly gone, but most certainly gathering dust in our entertainment cabinets.

Radio Shack - in three years, gone.

Tennis - So popular in the 80's you couldn't build courts fast enough. Now courts are mostly growing weeds. OH don't for get the poor head band industry LOL LMFAO :rofl :rofl

I could go on, but you see the trends. My point is not directed specifically at BARF but more causally, but it is more directed at keeping or seeing what would keep bringing new riders into the sport? If the sport gets small and weak those that oppose murdercycles could force them off the street. Things like that do happen. I'm still astonished at how few sportbike riders I see or rather don't see any more. From my point of view, I'd say sportbike ridership is down 95% from 2008/09.

And on a side note. I was talking to a m/c friend about the lack of new riders and we started joking, but there might be something to this. For those of us that lived through the 70's and 80's, the clothing styles included tight jeans, and tucking your shirt in. Now the styles are about loose fitting and shirt out, and guys don't even style their hair in the morning (which must have come from Great Britain LOL - but still sending love to our GB riders). So one thing that might be keeping riders away is not wanting to wear the gear. Seriously. Tight or snug gear takes some getting used to. If you are accustom to tight jeans then it isn't that big of a leap to put on a suit (either 1pc or 2pc). And the other point we hit upon was that the young guys seem to like all the new super hero movies Marvel and so forth, and all the heros seem to wear spandex suits or something similar to M/C gear.

So these are just some of my rambling thoughts.
 

canyonrat

Veteran Knee Dragger
First off, Thanks Mark for posting something constructive and putting your ideas out there for everyone to take pot-shots (hey is that a thing?) at. You are addressing the fundamental problem the MC industry faces which is attracting new riders. You are completely correct in that BARF could be the "go to" place for anyone interested in taking up the sport. Yesterday I was talking to a millennial that recently purchased a Kawasaki 300 as her first bike. This is perfect right? Young and female, the demographic the industry needs. She told me she was going to sell her bike, felt it was too dangerous to ride because it didn't fit her and she felt insecure because she couldn't flat foot the bike at a stop. Buying a bike is not like buying a car. BARF could be a first stop when someone is thinking about entering the MC world

Well said. But remember, the new generation thinks different then us and they are into this selfie photo thing. O wait, there's a stampede of lemmings running across my armored m/c boots - got to go. LOL
 

canyonrat

Veteran Knee Dragger
One last bit. Remember when we were growing up, our parents were either completely "out of touch" or really uncool. I think that us older generation/s remember that and don't want to make those same mistakes our parents made.
 

budman

General Menace
Staff member
One last bit. Remember when we were growing up, our parents were either completely "out of touch" or really uncool. I think that us older generation/s remember that and don't want to make those same mistakes our parents made.

True...!!
 

Butch

poseur
Staff member
The times they are a changin'...

Us old farts were free range kids, the helicopter parents of today my be breeding a population who do not venture far.

Man, we used to ride uor bicycles all aver the place as thirteen year olds. Sunnyvale to Castle Rock on Skyline was common. See how far we could go on our minibikes following railroad tracks was common. Then we got 100cc motos. Then at 15 1/2 we got motorcycle licenses (permits, actually).

Jim Gifford and I took the Greyhound Bus to Yosemite and climbed Half Dome. A bear ate all our food.

The world was our oyster. Apricots and cherries, as many as you could pick off the trees for free. $10 four finger lids. Acapulco Gold. Er, I'll stop.
:afm199
 
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Whammy

Veteran of Road Racing
The times they are a changin'...

Us old farts were free range kids, the helicopter parents of today my be breeding a population who do not venture far.

Man, we used to ride uor bicycles all aver the place as thirteen year olds. Sunnyvale to Castle Rock on Skyline was common. See how far we could go on our minibikes following railroad tracks was common. Then we got 100cc motos. Then at 15 1/2 we got motorcycle licenses (permits, actually).

Jim Gifford and I took the Greyhound Bus to Yosemite and climbed Half Dome. A bear ate all our food.

The world was our oyster. Apricots and cherries, as many as you could pick off the trees for free. $10 four finger lids. Acapulco Gold. Er, I'll stop.

Exactly! Free Range was it.
I don't want to instaface. and I don't really care about what kids are doing. Whammy be hip enough than most, and sets his own trends.
I know how to work the interwebs.
Most of them kids don't ever venture out of their homes anyway.
What a shame cause there is a huge world out there to go see and enjoy.
More fun to go see something in person than to use Wikipedia to look it up.
Adventure was out there and we got out and chased it.
 
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