Google Glass

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c-mo

tig o bitties
Ummm you mean like this one I made three years ago. Most of the time it's connected to a rear view camera but with a simple cable swap, it connects to an iPhone for gps, etc. cooler yet is when you add a scala G4 / G9 into the mix cuz then you get audio via Bluetooth. Now we're talkin turn by turn gps you can see and hear.

Oh yeah before anyone asks...no its not a distraction and your eyes don't need to adjust After looking. The screen is positioned in your peripheral vision and the image is similar to viewing a 30 inch tv from about 5 feet away.



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Eugene

Eugene

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I wear prescription glasses - I want a version that I could just clip onto an existing frame.
 
TheRobSJ

TheRobSJ

Großer Mechaniker
Daks said:
Honestly, the glass and anything like it should be illegal while operating any vehicle.

While having something that displays speed, gps,
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This portion at least has already been in use in vehicles for a long time now. At least 20 years in cars and even longer in military planes.

The latest in car heads up displays show speed and some other gauges, navi system directions, audio system information, and (using the GPS) even stuff like the speed limit for the road you're on.

I honestly think it's much safer than taking my eyes off the road to look at any of that stuff on my dash somewhere. I love the HUD so much, it may be the deciding factor as to what my next car will be. A new Camaro has a HUD but a Mustang does not.
 
ilikefood

ilikefood

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JPK said:
It's still not clear to me why you would expect to have privacy when you're out in public.
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I don't know about "expect", but I do want it, and I think the world will be a better place if we're not under surveillance all the time. In both public and private places.

You can say "you can't expect privacy in public places", but that glosses over the fact that lack of privacy in public places is acceptable when the "no privacy in public places" consists of someone merely looking at you. It's very different when "no privacy in public places" turns into tracking your every movement any time you leave your house.

Would you be OK with someone tailing you wherever you go and compiling a record of everything you do in public? You're in public, what's the problem with someone monitoring you as your whole family goes to (for example) the airport and gets on a plane to Europe - which makes it clear that no one will be at your house for a while?
 
ilikefood

ilikefood

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TheRobSJ said:
This portion at least has already been in use in vehicles for a long time now. At least 20 years in cars and even longer in military planes.

The latest in car heads up displays show speed and some other gauges, navi system directions, audio system information, and (using the GPS) even stuff like the speed limit for the road you're on.

I honestly think it's much safer than taking my eyes off the road to look at any of that stuff on my dash somewhere. I love the HUD so much, it may be the deciding factor as to what my next car will be. A new Camaro has a HUD but a Mustang does not.
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Well, HUD is very different than Google Glass. HUD projects images on top of whatever you're looking at. My understanding (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that Google Glass is a separate area that's at the edge of your vision, so you have to look up (and away from whatever you're looking at) to see it.
 
JPK

JPK

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ilikefood said:
I don't know about "expect", but I do want it, and I think the world will be a better place if we're not under surveillance all the time. In both public and private places.

You can say "you can't expect privacy in public places", but that glosses over the fact that lack of privacy in public places is acceptable when the "no privacy in public places" consists of someone merely looking at you. It's very different when "no privacy in public places" turns into tracking your every movement any time you leave your house.

Would you be OK with someone tailing you wherever you go and compiling a record of everything you do in public? You're in public, what's the problem with someone monitoring you as your whole family goes to (for example) the airport and gets on a plane to Europe - which makes it clear that no one will be at your house for a while?
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A few thoughts:

1) everything you do in public is already being compiled if you have a smartphone in your pocket. Google, Apple, or whomever can tell exactly where you go every day, where you work, where you eat, what time you wake up and go to sleep, who you know, where you go on vacation, etc. Google Glass might add incrementally to that but you're arguing as if that capability doesn't exist today. Like it or not, it's the reality we already live in, and have been for a very long time now. The easy answer is to not buy/carry a smartphone if it bothers you.

2) most people "self-reveal" all the stuff you're concerned about. People don't need someone following them around to reveal they're on a plane to Hawaii. They tweet about it, post pictures on Facebook, etc. Their credit card company knows. Their wireless carrier knows. Expedia or Travelocity knows. Their neighbors, the paperboy, the mailman and the garbage man all know. So what? If you're concerned, get a home alarm system.

3) companies like Google don't really give a $%&^ what "ilikefood" did today. They care only in so much as it allows them to push tailored advertising to you on websites. What they do care about is data on the aggregate - public buying patterns, traffic patterns, etc. This is a far cry from caring whether you had a chicken burrito for lunch. Frankly, if someone wants to know if I had a chicken burrito for lunch, all they have to do is ask me.
 
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fsckewe

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c-mo said:
Ummm you mean like this one I made three years ago. Most of the time it's connected to a rear view camera but with a simple cable swap, it connects to an iPhone for gps, etc. cooler yet is when you add a scala G4 / G9 into the mix cuz then you get audio via Bluetooth. Now we're talkin turn by turn gps you can see and hear.

Oh yeah before anyone asks...no its not a distraction and your eyes don't need to adjust After looking. The screen is positioned in your peripheral vision and the image is similar to viewing a 30 inch tv from about 5 feet away.



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I've actually been really interested in something like this. I don't need text or email or phone calls. Just a basic HUD. Got a build thread somewhere?

Also, what did you use.... did you use something like Rocon's MOD?
 
nbean16

nbean16

The Art of Seduction
ilikefood said:
Sure, the world that is already like that to some extent. I don't see how increasing the number of cameras by 10x or more is going to make things any better.
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I wouldn't worry so much. This thing is gonna fail. I can't believe people are touting this as the future. It won't sell at that price and people will tire of being laughed at on the street wearing these things. The market for this is the same as the segway market.
 
ilikefood

ilikefood

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JPK said:
A few thoughts:

1) everything you do in public is already being compiled if you have a smartphone in your pocket. Google, Apple, or whomever can tell exactly where you go every day, where you work, where you eat, what time you wake up and go to sleep, who you know, where you go on vacation, etc. Google Glass might add incrementally to that but you're arguing as if that capability doesn't exist today. Like it or not, it's the reality we already live in, and have been for a very long time now. The easy answer is to not buy/carry a smartphone if it bothers you.

2) most people "self-reveal" all the stuff you're concerned about. People don't need someone following them around to reveal they're on a plane to Hawaii. They tweet about it, post pictures on Facebook, etc. Their credit card company knows. Their wireless carrier knows. Expedia or Travelocity knows. Their neighbors, the paperboy, the mailman and the garbage man all know. So what? If you're concerned, get a home alarm system.

3) companies like Google don't really give a $%&^ what "ilikefood" did today. They care only in so much as it allows them to push tailored advertising to you on websites. What they do care about is data on the aggregate - public buying patterns, traffic patterns, etc. This is a far cry from caring whether you had a chicken burrito for lunch. Frankly, if someone wants to know if I had a chicken burrito for lunch, all they have to do is ask me.
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1) With a phone, I have the option to turn it off or leave it at home. I can't do anything to prevent a bunch of people randomly recording me with Google Glass.

2) Those things you mention are already a problem. Again, I don't see how adding to the problem will make things any better.

3) I'm not too concerned about what those companies do specifically with my information. The problem with ever-present surveillance is that this data exists and can be used against anyone. How quickly do you think Google turns over all the info they have about someone if law enforcement asks for it?
The impact on an individual in the short term is tiny, but in aggregate and in the longer term, the end result is a total-surveillance society, where any sort of dissent is very easily suppressed. Don't you think that people might be a bit less likely to participate in, say, controversial demonstrations if they know that they're going to be easily - and routinely - identified?
 
fast4ward

fast4ward

Tired and Emotional
Google should get together with the Darwin Awards and create a special category for users distracted by Glass and meeting an untimely end ......

I'm sure there'll be a lot of competition :twofinger

Unfortunately I think there'll also be a lot of collateral damage with others they take out while distracted.

Hopefully the excessive price will keep the competition numbers low.
 
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ebRider

Newbie in Training
This thread makes me sad. All i want is to live in the future, and you all wish it was 1845 :( Also the $1500 price point is for the developer edition, which is basically just super limited quantities. Expect the price to be cut in half by the time it reaches mass production.

In 30 years arguments against wearable technology will seem about as silly as this argument against the advance of the internet.

Visionaries see a future of telecommuting workers, interactive libraries and multimedia classrooms. They speak of electronic town meetings and virtual communities. Commerce and business will shift from offices and malls to networks and modems. And the freedom of digital networks will make government more democratic.

Baloney. Do our computer pundits lack all common sense? The truth in no online database will replace your daily newspaper, no CD-ROM can take the place of a competent teacher and no computer network will change the way government works.
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Stormdragon

Stormdragon

Still Good Lookin'
Earth, by David Brin. Read the bits about Tru-Vue glasses. I'm betting someone at Google has had that book on their mind for 20 years. :laughing
 
Feanor

Feanor

Unmasked
While these units are still rare and very expensive, I see a new wave of "Glass Grab" crimes for people wearing these in metropolitan areas; Particularly since while being used, your attention would be a bit unfocused regarding the guy walking up from behind you that just snatched them off your face and ran...
 
JPK

JPK

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ilikefood said:
1) With a phone, I have the option to turn it off or leave it at home. I can't do anything to prevent a bunch of people randomly recording me with Google Glass.

2) Those things you mention are already a problem. Again, I don't see how adding to the problem will make things any better.

3) I'm not too concerned about what those companies do specifically with my information. The problem with ever-present surveillance is that this data exists and can be used against anyone. How quickly do you think Google turns over all the info they have about someone if law enforcement asks for it?
The impact on an individual in the short term is tiny, but in aggregate and in the longer term, the end result is a total-surveillance society, where any sort of dissent is very easily suppressed. Don't you think that people might be a bit less likely to participate in, say, controversial demonstrations if they know that they're going to be easily - and routinely - identified?
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1) You can also turn off your Google Glass or leave it at home. As far as someone else taking video of "you" - they're just taking video of random strangers. I can walk around and take video in public today with my iPhone. I have no idea who I just captured on video. They're just a bunch of random people.

2) please tell me how it's a problem. Nebulous concerns about diminishing privacy aside, what exactly do you think is going to happen?

3) Not very willingly at all. Usually it takes a subpoena in order for them to turn over information, so unless law enforcement has reasonable cause to believe you committed a crime and you were caught on video and they can prove it to a judge there's not much chance that this sort of information is just going to be willingly handed over.

Honestly, I just don't see it as a problem. Again, we've been recorded just about everywhere in public for decades now. Every ATM you walk past... every gas station you fill up at... even the Taco Bell... so what? I don't mean this as dismissive - I'm honestly curious to know what specifically you believe could happen to you as a result of being caught on video anonymously out in public by someone walking past you wearing a Google Glass?
 
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