Five Ways to Crash (plus one)

DataDan

Mama says he's bona fide
How do the most common motorcycle crashes occur, and more importantly, what can we do to prevent them? That's the subject of an article in the latest issue of UK's Bike (5/09). Gary Baldwin, a police crash investigator and civilian riding instructor in Britain, identifies five common motorcycle crash scenarios. It's not a scientific study, just the observations of one guy who sees a lot of crashes. In spite of the differences between motorcycling in the UK and in the US--they have extensive training, tiered licensing, and a driving population more accustomed to sharing the road with motorcycles--the crashes Baldwin describes are much like the ones we American riders experience. And the lessons we can draw from them just might prevent a crash.


Blowing a Turn

You enter a turn too fast, and either run wide or lowside as you try to slow down and get the bike turned. If you're very lucky, you'll ride off the road and come to a stop. If you're not so lucky, you'll slide on your leathers to a stop, get up, and walk away. If you're unlucky, you'll hit a post, guardrail, or oncoming vehicle and suffer injuries that could be life-threatening.
To prevent this kind of crash, you need to be able to judge turn entry speed effectively. The technique of The Vanishing Point suggests easy-to-follow rules that will help you set a comfortable entry speed. Advanced training will give you confidence in yourself and in the motorcycle, preventing a panic reaction and enabling you to get through the turn even if you initially think speed is too high.

Unseen Hazards

Approach a blind turn or the crest of a hill too fast, and you won't be prepared to deal with hazards revealed when the view opens up. Gravel in your line, a slow-moving truck, a car turning onto the road, or other unexpected obstacle can result in a crash. Says Baldwin, "The key is the word 'unexpected'. The rider has made a judgment or assumption that the road will be clear. There were no junction signs, nothing to forewarn the rider, so he zooms to his doom."
Maintain speed that allows you to see the roadway 4 seconds ahead. If you have that much clear pavement, you'll be able to stop if a hazard comes into view. On some turns, that will seem slow. But in many others you'll easily have that much sight distance. This rule helps distinguish between turns where your skill and the motorcycle's capability set the limit and those where the possibility of unseen random hazards establishes safe speed. See the thread Good Speed / Bad Speed.

Straight-Line Loss of Control

According to Baldwin, many crashes in the UK occur when a rider approaches a roundabout (traffic circle), fails to slow in time, and runs straight on into the island. We don't have many roundabouts here, but we do have the same sort of inexplicable crashes. On a straight roadway, a rider runs into the center divider or hits a parked vehicle. Or he fails to see slowing traffic and either crashes under braking or rear-ends a stopped vehicle. Or he wheelies into a parked car or fixed object.
One good way to prevent a crash like this is to ride sober, since alcohol is often a factor when a motorcyclist simply rides off a perfectly good piece of pavement. Beyond that obvious advice, is one more obvious piece of advice: Pay attention. Keep your head up and your eyes and brain ahead of the motorcycle at all times.

Intersections

This is the crash between a motorcycle and the notorious oncoming left-turner, or a vehicle crossing an intersection or entering the road from a driveway. Most--though far from all--are caused by careless drivers. But even those caused by the other guy can often be prevented by the rider. Baldwin says, "It's unreasonable to expect a motorist to anticipate a bike arriving at high speed. So it's the rider's responsibility to make sure he's been seen. Almost all junctions are signed, but if you can't see the junction then someone at that junction can't possibly see you."
While some of these crashes happen so suddenly and unexpectedly that a rider simply can't avoid them, many others are preventable. Use position and speed to: 1) make sure you can see all vehicles that could interfere with you; 2) give other drivers the best possible chance to see and avoid you; and 3) set a trajectory that gives you the best chance of effectively executing evasive maneuvers. The thread Traffic Tactics: Left-Turning Vehicles explains how.

Passer vs. Passee

This sometimes overlooked situation can occur when a vehicle you're passing turns left just as you come alongside it. You may be passing several vehicles, and the one in front--the one slowing everyone down--is turning. But you don't see it at first because of the intervening line of cars, and when it does come into view, it's too late to avoid the inevitable collision.
Before making a pass, make sure you can see all of the vehicles you want to get around and assess their intentions, then wait for a spot where there will be no opportunity for a vehicle you're passing to turn left.


Much of what we learn about riding well is the accumulation of experience from problem situations. After a close call or unpleasant surprise, we figure out what went wrong and formulate tactics for dealing with similar situations in the future. But even better than experiencing these problems first hand is reading about someone else's experience and cataloging it for future use. If you can take good lesson away from these examples, you may be able to prevent your own crash.
 

Grease_Monkey

Sloshie Joshie
All good points. I think one more needs to be mentioned. Rider Ignorance.
A rider who crashes purely due to inexperience with out any out side influences.

Taken from personal experience, braking too hard. I had plenty of room to stop, just too much brake, locked up the front tire and down i went. Then too much throttle and Yut Ughhh!!!! my roommate looped is R6 nobodys fault but his own.
 

Blacknblue

Well-known member
Good stuff as usual. Thanks DataDan.

I'd just like to add the fact that a motorist can better judge an oncoming vehicles speed (assuming they're even looking) when they have two points of light or hi-vis markings to use. I wear a yellow helmet with reflectors and added two high-vis strips in the rear. My front turn signals are running lights and add some measure of visibility. For added visibility in foggy conditions, I sometimes wear my yellow rain jacket with reflector tape as well.
 

Aluisious

Well-known member
Of these 5, intersections are really the biggest problem. Blowing turns, unseen hazards, straight line loss of control, and passing crashes are all solved by riding reasonably.

Leave racing for the track and many problems vanish.
 

CBRMike83

Well-known member
Of these 5, intersections are really the biggest problem. Blowing turns, unseen hazards, straight line loss of control, and passing crashes are all solved by riding reasonably.

Leave racing for the track and many problems vanish.

+1
and
+1 for poster "dam rep points i still hate them being gone"

Or being a :squid will usually make all hazards a reality:rofl:twofinger
 
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Starshooter10

Bane of your Existence!
yeah im a big fan of the freakout brake in tight turns (that in all reallity i can do at said speeds) but for some reason i dont like dumping it over for a turn...

put me in a longer set of turns and i'll lean and body pos to the max....
 

KarmaYeshe

Well-known member
lots of close calls for me

Ive only been riding since last Dec and have many close calls with cars running stop signs or swerving into me and even a 745i trying to side swipe me on purpose.
 

rapidrobbie

Ride Fast Take Chances
Making assumptions like assuming that driver is going to stop at intersection/traffic signal/stop sign.Almost got bit by this one yesterday,guy in a pickup is exiting highway I am approaching from his right no stop in my direction.I made the assumption he was going to stop,I was wrong,he just blew through the stop right as I got there,I swerved right and pinned the throttle,he missed me by about 2 feet,then after I had gotten past him he locked up the brakes.I just shook my head and continued on my way,Moron
Moral of the story,don't assume they are gonna stop,even when they are legally required to...Robbie
 

DataDan

Mama says he's bona fide
Ive only been riding since last Dec and have many close calls with cars running stop signs or swerving into me...
If you have a lot of close calls, a crash can't be far off. After all, a crash is just a close call that got too close.

One way to help prevent that not-quite inevitable crash is to learn something from every close call. Each situation that becomes familiar--one that you quickly recognize as potentially hazardous and can avert with a planned countermove--is one that cannot victimize you.

First, identify the general situation that led to the event. For example, a car trying to cross your roadway from the right pulls into the intersection causing you to take emergency action to keep from hitting it. If it happened once, it can happen again, so catalog it for future reference and be extra alert the next time you see a car approaching your roadway on a cross street.

Second, identify events that may have preceded the driver's action. Maybe a rolling stop or a partially obstructed sightline between you and the driver. These cue you to a possible incursion and should trigger evasive action. If you can anticipate the problem before the driver actually pulls into your path, you'll have more time and space to execute evasive action.

Third, plan evasive action to take before the actual incursion occurs. By slowing down and increasing space cushion on the side of the threat you will, again, have more time and space to execute evasive action if the car does pull into your path.

By thinking about this stuff right after a close call your memory of the incident will be fresh. You also have the luxury of analyzing your response in a non-emergency frame of mind.

See the threads Traffic Tactics: Left-Turning Vehicles and Good Speed / Bad Speed for some examples of problem situations and responses.

...and even a 745i trying to side swipe me on purpose.
Deliberate acts of aggression are rare. Not that they never happen, but that's not the most likely explanation of an otherwise unexplained incursion. Drivers don't want to crash.

The "eye contact fallacy" can contribute to the impression that an act was intentional. You think you see a driver looking right at you, but then he pulls into your path anyway. In fact, though his head was pointed in your general direction, he may not have actually seen you. This is especially true when your only view is via the car's mirror.

Mistakenly attributing a common driving fuck-up to intentional aggression prevents you from learning the real lesson in an incident, and it sours your attitude, which may contribute to a much more serious fuck-up on your part.
 

beginner

Well-known member
Straight-Line Loss of Control
I have a theory that some of these accidents are the human motor balance system panicing and freezing the controls or failing to perceive a change in lean or traction or a combination. It happens in skiing, skating, and horseback riding.

In a week or so I'll get back on the bike for the first time since last December. If things are the same as last year my feel of lean and traction won't be up too par (a little like being mildly DUI but with no alcohol in the blood stream). Last year it took some hours spread over several days to get my figure 8s and uturns working as well as the previous seaon.

Do the straight line single vehicle accidents tend to happen near the beginning of the riding season?
 

DataDan

Mama says he's bona fide
Do the straight line single vehicle accidents tend to happen near the beginning of the riding season?
Based on 2008 Bay Area data, no. The big factors are BAC and darkness--which also tend to correlate between them. About 2/3 of the fatal loss-of-control crashes either occurred at night, involved a drunk rider, or both.

Some of these crashes (not the ill-fated wheelies or brake lockups) are similar to running wide in a curve, the #1 cause of fatal crashes in the Bay Area. In the crash analysis I do from FARS data, news reports, and Google Earth imagery, it is sometimes hard to distinguish between the two. If the rider runs off the road at a slight kink that doesn't really qualify as a curve, or if a landscaped median divider suddenly appears and the rider fails to swerve around it, I classify it as a straight-line loss of control.

My theory--consistent with Hurt's conclusions--is that these crashes are often due to a poorly developed countersteering instinct. An obstacle appears suddenly, and the rider does not react instantly by pressing the bar opposite the hazard. The best preventive measure is never to outride your sightline. But next best is to practice hard countersteering at speeds fast enough to require forceful steering inputs. A cone weave with 35ft spacing at 35mph is a good start. Another good drill is "dodge the possum". On a vacant rural road, you spot a dead possum in the road ahead. Ride straight toward it and come as close as you can to hitting it, but then make a sharp steering input to dodge it. If you're doing it right, after 5 or 10 you will feel some arm pump. Also works with raccoons, skid marks, manhole covers, and shadows.
 

CaptCrash

Dazed and Confused
Odd question time; in going through the data (thanks by the way) I'm banking there's no way to tell experience or training. What about licensure? The implied question is does being licensed/experienced/trained make a difference in avoiding the big 5?
 

DataDan

Mama says he's bona fide
Odd question time; in going through the data (thanks by the way) I'm banking there's no way to tell experience or training. What about licensure? The implied question is does being licensed/experienced/trained make a difference in avoiding the big 5?
What appears in the FARS database on fatal crashes is just info collected by police in the course of the investigation, and experience and training aren't included. One can infer that a licensed CA rider under 21 passed MSF and that those a year or two older probably did, but there's nothing further than that.

If the CHP really wanted to, they could combine data from training records (they oversee the California Motorcyclist Safety Program, though MSF is contracted to manage it) with the statewide crash records they maintain to learn something about training.

In the Bay Area in 2008, two-thirds of riders in fatal crashes were properly licensed. Of those who weren't, half had a suspended driver's license and the other half lacked an M endorsement. My efforts to identify causes of crashes include only the Bay Area 2006-2008 (about 250 cases), so there's not enough data to draw meaningful conclusions about the correlation between licensing and crash cause. However, one thing I have noticed is that the riders on suspended licenses are more likely to have .08+ BAC. That's probably how they got suspended in the first place.
 

beginner

Well-known member
Based on 2008 Bay Area data, no. The big factors are BAC and darkness--which also tend to correlate between them. About 2/3 of the fatal loss-of-control crashes either occurred at night, involved a drunk rider, or both.
Darkness reduces visual references so feel of lean changes will be reduced. I rarely drink but I won't have even one beer if there's going to be another ride before the end of the day because it noticably reduces my ability to feel what the bike is doing. I can handle the bike at night or with one beer but it's not fun.
My theory--consistent with Hurt's conclusions--is that these crashes are often due to a poorly developed countersteering instinct.
Counter steering is counter intuitive to the human balance system, so it would need to be trained to overcome that. Not deliberately countersteering when it's required to avoid a problem, failing to act, is about the same thing as freezing at the controls. In my limited experience of two seasons it seems like being even a little bit good at something on the bike takes hundreds or thousands of repetitions spread over months and seasons.
 

CaptCrash

Dazed and Confused
...there's not enough data to draw meaningful conclusions about the correlation between licensing and crash cause. However, one thing I have noticed is that the riders on suspended licenses are more likely to have .08+ BAC. That's probably how they got suspended in the first place.

That's interesting. Once you're in a bad place you probably tend to stay there.
 

Enchanter

Ghost in The Machine
Staff member
I have a theory that some of these accidents are the human motor balance system panicing and freezing the controls or failing to perceive a change in lean or traction or a combination. It happens in skiing, skating, and horseback riding.

The freezing you describe is the result of the emotional reaction (panic) to a situation that the human is not comfortable with. It is not caused by the so-called "human motor balance system". You have it backwards. You have confused the symptom with the disease.

In my limited experience of two seasons it seems like being even a little bit good at something on the bike takes hundreds or thousands of repetitions spread over months and seasons.

I respect your opinion, but when we take into consideration that you take repetition to the extreme, your opinion looses some of its weight.

I applaud your desire to to become a safe motorcycle rider, but you are severely limiting yourself by refusing to take instruction from others.
 

DataDan

Mama says he's bona fide
Counter steering is counter intuitive to the human balance system, so it would need to be trained to overcome that. Not deliberately countersteering when it's required to avoid a problem, failing to act, is about the same thing as freezing at the controls. In my limited experience of two seasons it seems like being even a little bit good at something on the bike takes hundreds or thousands of repetitions spread over months and seasons.
It may be counterintuitive to the cognitive process, but that is easily overcome. And I don't think it takes years to develop. Once you learn how effective it is, how you can instantly change direction with a light press on the inside bar, the light bulb goes on and the persuasion is done. After that, deliberately using it to initiate every turn--at the intersection at the end of your block, in a slight freeway kink, to avoid an obstacle in the middle of the road--will imprint it permanently.

That ends the discussion of countersteering training technique in this thread. You're welcome to start a new one in General if you'd like.
 
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