sidewazzz
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Someone posted that data not to long ago. Oddly enough AMA = Motogp in terms of viewership in the US.
Anyone catch this article about AMA?
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Someone posted that data not to long ago. Oddly enough AMA = Motogp in terms of viewership in the US.
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Dmitriy
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NICE! thank you for the link :thumbup
look at that over a month later they still get 1k views in a day.
ALANRIDER7
MeowMeowMeow
This is the Superbike starting grid at Daytona.
Just 18 riders??? :rolleyes That's half a real field.
Just 18 riders??? :rolleyes That's half a real field.
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stangmx13
not Stan
was the show rly any good b4 them?? i didnt watch road racing back then, but i have a feeling that ppl r making invalid comparison like they do w/ all racing.
kevin 714
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For many years AMA was THE superbike series, better than wsbk
Hrc running multiple bikes, supersport full of factory riders, and battles galore. It was awesome in the early 2000's
fawndog
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Manimal
Mini-Moto Racing
+3
Thanks for sharing :thumbup
and a BIG shout out to all the Nor-Cal riders :thumbup
kevin 714
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ill maintain t hat having mladin and spies on the same team for three years totally destoryed the ama. that was when the problems really began. two guys, on the same bike, were winning literally every single race, for years.
all the rule discussins started, all the moaning about satelite guys who cant compete, other teams had no chance, the accusation sof cheating. it was crazy, and in truth it was that there was two motogp caliber talents in a national series, on the same team.
all the rule discussins started, all the moaning about satelite guys who cant compete, other teams had no chance, the accusation sof cheating. it was crazy, and in truth it was that there was two motogp caliber talents in a national series, on the same team.
kevin 714
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there was a point where mladin was one of the highest paid racers in the world behind rossi
sidewazzz
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Them winning every race didn't kill anything, they were the show an everyone knew it and that's why poeple went. the one's complaining where people watching on TV. In the paddock it was flipping awesome, everything was super tight knit. Everyone was trying to figure out how to beat the Zooks. The cheating deal.... the top 3 bikes went to tech inspection after the race. The ONLY thing I recall there being fuss about was TC on the Zooks.
Sat guys can't compete? I was the show as it should have been , as far as most the US was concered it should have been only factory supported bikes out there in the 1st place for a while that's all you needed. 4 honda's vs 4 yam's vs 2 kawi vs 4 zook
kevin 714
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but they weren't the show. the show was already dying by then. huge swaths of the fans hated them for the simple reason that they won every race. every damned one. even I couldn't stand it. what I wouldnt have given to see spies sing with ducati back then...
people craved them losing, desperately wanted them to lose. they were the beginnng of the end...
people craved them losing, desperately wanted them to lose. they were the beginnng of the end...
clutchslip
Not as fast as I look.
I don't know. I hated Yoshimura and Suzuki for out spending everyone else like five to one. :laughing
Honda had no problem stepping up to win the Daytona. If their budget had more U.S. dollars, they could have done some serious damage to the Zooks. That little Canadian weasel was a pretty tough SOB, as I recall. And Jake has a 200 trophy, too. And he is pretty darn good on a liter bike.
I don't think this is anything new for AMA racing. It seemed like a good idea to have outside promotion. And the change may have made sense, if Rodger E. wasn't the principle.
Sidewazz covers this all pretty well, but as I have stated elsewhere, the timing was horrible. The manufacturers were cutting back racing money because of the economy and instead of trying to get them to stay, Rodger says 'screw-off'. I mean, really? The "Doug France method of success" is highly dependent on space and time. The spacing and the timing was all wrong to be a DMG class-ass savior of road racing with local support money.
I for one hoped that someone else would win besides Matt or Ben.. hell I was happy to see Ben beat Matt in the beginning.
But hey.. Suzuki stuck with the sport a deserved their success.. You cannot take that away from them.
I think John U. is passionate about his sport and is damn good for the sport. Saying that he has helped drag it down is wrong. It is guys like him that invest to have a team..specially in SB where the cost is high and the chance to win is lower just shows how much he loves it.
If he makes decent money off it I would be surprised, same with Jordon, same with.. wait Larry Pegram can make a living off it.. hmmm.
The last couple of years seeing the non factory boys playing at the front of Daytona Sportbike has lit me up as a fan.. huge fun. That is making such a difference. Now Cam could make that a thing of the past this year because he is that good, but I think we will still see lots of different guys pounding on the podium. Totally Cool.
Seeing more guys in SB at the front last year was good too. Yes.. this Yamaha guy dominates.. the way that Suzuki guy use to dominate. They deserve it because the rider is superior and the equipment is too because they make the investment.
Seeing the rules make things a little closer is good and once Josh retires things could be very different. I SO WANT JORDAN to win.. I want to see M4 win.. etc.. and I chomp at the bit every race to watch it happen.
Guess with the problems now I won't get that chance and that IS THE BIG SUCKAGE right now.
AMA ... webcast brothers.. no TV.. no problem. Make it work please.
But hey.. Suzuki stuck with the sport a deserved their success.. You cannot take that away from them.
I think John U. is passionate about his sport and is damn good for the sport. Saying that he has helped drag it down is wrong. It is guys like him that invest to have a team..specially in SB where the cost is high and the chance to win is lower just shows how much he loves it.
If he makes decent money off it I would be surprised, same with Jordon, same with.. wait Larry Pegram can make a living off it.. hmmm.
The last couple of years seeing the non factory boys playing at the front of Daytona Sportbike has lit me up as a fan.. huge fun. That is making such a difference. Now Cam could make that a thing of the past this year because he is that good, but I think we will still see lots of different guys pounding on the podium. Totally Cool.
Seeing more guys in SB at the front last year was good too. Yes.. this Yamaha guy dominates.. the way that Suzuki guy use to dominate. They deserve it because the rider is superior and the equipment is too because they make the investment.
Seeing the rules make things a little closer is good and once Josh retires things could be very different. I SO WANT JORDAN to win.. I want to see M4 win.. etc.. and I chomp at the bit every race to watch it happen.
Guess with the problems now I won't get that chance and that IS THE BIG SUCKAGE right now.
AMA ... webcast brothers.. no TV.. no problem. Make it work please.
Zerox
Can I be....frank?
+1, JU has done so much for the sport it would fill a book.
Ain't nobody to blame in motorcycle racing for the world economy collapsing. The fringe sports (such as U.S. motorcycle road racing) are the first to suffer in such a scenario. And suffer it has.
But now it's a new era, a new game. The corner was turned a couple years ago, time to grow. And the racing is quite good. :thumbup
kevin 714
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I disagree, respectfully, budman
John used his magazine, website, and stance in the community to further his political aims, and used His position as a journalist to scew public opinion in his favor (as a private team owner)
He used Hos power to further his team at the expense of the truth, integrity, and the overall show. He was instrumental in the dmg fiasco and bears a huge portion of the the respOndiblity.
In addition, he wages war on Hos own fan Abd readers if anything he writes or puts on the website is used. There's a very specific reason why a site like Motomatters is so loved by hardcore fans, and is one of my primary websites
John used his magazine, website, and stance in the community to further his political aims, and used His position as a journalist to scew public opinion in his favor (as a private team owner)
He used Hos power to further his team at the expense of the truth, integrity, and the overall show. He was instrumental in the dmg fiasco and bears a huge portion of the the respOndiblity.
In addition, he wages war on Hos own fan Abd readers if anything he writes or puts on the website is used. There's a very specific reason why a site like Motomatters is so loved by hardcore fans, and is one of my primary websites