Anybody know who this guy is who allegedly tried to run over protestor's?

[asthmodeus]

Yes true. The terms whinny, selfish, and narcissistic, do apply to your friends at the die in. They DO NOT APPLY to the two named individuals.

you make real horse sense, cowboy.

 

[Blankpage]

Had it been a nerdy Asian kid on a Vespa riding by at walking pace revving his 50 decibel sewing machine, would it have made the news. Why does an aftermarket exhaust make such the difference.

 

[carries an axe]

Asmodee as if you've been wondering why I've been ignoring you it's because you've stopped having conversations and just attempt to Quick quote people in the hopes of picking on their grammar or spelling when you run out of things to to say.


Go ahead hit me with your one liner.

 

[T100]

you make real horse sense, cowboy.

Thanks for pointing out the spelling error cowgirl...WHINEY. All better now? Or, do you prefer WHINY?

 

[Enchanter]

exactly. guy uses a motorcycle to harass and/or assault people staging a peaceful protest, media picks it up and gives even more people even more reason to despise motorcyclists

bunch of motorcyclists on web forum largely dedicated to politics of motorcycling itself support and defend said horseshit because of their political views and/or perception of protestors, drawing baffled responses from bunch of motorcyclists on same web forum that think they are soft in the head.

what is the confusion?

I agree.

How many readers here have googled the elements of the crime of assault?

 

[asthmodeus]

Asmodee as if you've been wondering why I've been ignoring you it's because you've stopped having conversations and just attempt to Quick quote people in the hopes of picking on their grammar or spelling when you run out of things to to say.


Go ahead hit me with your one liner.

i haven't been wondering, i just feel the need to point out your folly because you post a lot of it lately.

think of us both as edwards. i am norton, you are furlong.

 

[Lunch Box]

Add me to the list of folks who agree with Asthmo.


Edit: was referring to the post quoted by Enchanter

 

[asthmodeus]

Thanks for pointing out the spelling error cowgirl...WHINEY. All better now? Or, do you prefer WHINY?

however you want to spell what you are doing is fine with me, but leave the horses out of it.

 

[Slow Goat]

Now Jeffie has a $25k go-fund-me/make-a-wish fund, to pay his soon-to-be-very-large attorney bill.

Maybe sell the Duc when it's out of impound.....

 

[asthmodeus]

I agree.

How many readers here have googled the elements of the crime of assault?

the most unfortunate runoff of the information age is that everybody thinks that they know what they are talking about even if they really don't...except me, of course.

 

[T100]

I agree.

How many readers here have googled the elements of the crime of assault?

I did, and I agree under the law he could be charged with assault for what he did. That doesn't mean that he should be. Or, that the law isn't too broad and far too encompassing as to what constitutes true assault.

 

[cfives]

exactly. guy uses a motorcycle to harass and/or assault people staging a peaceful protest, media picks it up and gives even more people even more reason to despise motorcyclists

bunch of motorcyclists on web forum largely dedicated to politics of motorcycling itself support and defend said horseshit because of their political views and/or perception of protestors, drawing baffled responses from bunch of motorcyclists on same web forum that think they are soft in the head.

what is the confusion?

That is pretty much how I see it, and am confused as to why other BARFs would defend or contribute to the legal defense of a road rager. All my money is going to the reduction mammaplasty account.

 

[Blankpage]

I think motorcyclists hate each other way more than Joe Blow car driver or pedestrian hates motorcyclists.
Unfortunately many douchebag wannabe badasses are drawn to the hobby for the crappy image some give it. Self feeding never ending part of the two wheel lifestyle

 

[Shaggy]

Crime elements of assault and battery also vary by state. In California they are covered under 240 PC and 242 PC respectively. Assault with a vehicle could also be charged as Assault with a Deadly Weapon under 245(a)(1) PC. Other crimes may also apply depending on what was said/done at the time of the incident.

240 PC.
An assault is an unlawful attempt, coupled with a present ability, to commit a violent injury on the person of another.

242 PC.
A battery is any willful and unlawful use of force or violence upon the person of another.

245 PC.
(a) (1) Any person who commits an assault upon the person of another with a deadly weapon or instrument other than a firearm shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for two, three, or four years, or in a county jail for not exceeding one year, or by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment.
(2) Any person who commits an assault upon the person of another with a firearm shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for two, three, or four years, or in a county jail for not less than six months and not exceeding one year, or by both a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000) and imprisonment.
(3) Any person who commits an assault upon the person of another with a machinegun, as defined in Section 16880, or an assault weapon, as defined in Section 30510 or 30515, or a .50 BMG rifle, as defined in Section 30530, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for 4, 8, or 12 years.
(4) Any person who commits an assault upon the person of another by any means of force likely to produce great bodily injury shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for two, three, or four years, or in a county jail for not exceeding one year, or by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment.
(b) Any person who commits an assault upon the person of another with a semiautomatic firearm shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for three, six, or nine years.
(c) Any person who commits an assault with a deadly weapon or instrument, other than a firearm, or by any means likely to produce great bodily injury upon the person of a peace officer or firefighter, and who knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a peace officer or firefighter engaged in the performance of his or her duties, when the peace officer or firefighter is engaged in the performance of his or her duties, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for three, four, or five years.
(d) (1) Any person who commits an assault with a firearm upon the person of a peace officer or firefighter, and who knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a peace officer or firefighter engaged in the performance of his or her duties, when the peace officer or firefighter is engaged in the performance of his or her duties, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for four, six, or eight years.
(2) Any person who commits an assault upon the person of a peace officer or firefighter with a semiautomatic firearm and who knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a peace officer or firefighter engaged in the performance of his or her duties, when the peace officer or firefighter is engaged in the performance of his or her duties, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for five, seven, or nine years.
(3) Any person who commits an assault with a machinegun, as defined in Section 16880, or an assault weapon, as defined in Section 30510 or 30515, or a .50 BMG rifle, as defined in Section 30530, upon the person of a peace officer or firefighter, and who knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a peace officer or firefighter engaged in the performance of his or her duties, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for 6, 9, or 12 years.
(e) When a person is convicted of a violation of this section in a case involving use of a deadly weapon or instrument or firearm, and the weapon or instrument or firearm is owned by that person, the court shall order that the weapon or instrument or firearm be deemed a nuisance, and it shall be confiscated and disposed of in the manner provided by Sections 18000 and 18005.
(f) As used in this section, “peace officer” refers to any person designated as a peace officer in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2.
(Amended (as amended by Stats. 2010, Ch. 178) by Stats. 2011, Ch. 183, Sec. 1. Effective January 1, 2012. Amended version operative January 1, 2012, pursuant to Stats. 2010, Ch. 178, Sec. 107.)

 

[TripleSeven]

He didn't attempt to injure anyone.

 

[Johndicezx9]

Wait, why does a "dillionaire" need "Go Fund Me" dollars?

 

[clutchslip]

I agree.

How many readers here have googled the elements of the crime of assault?

You actually agree with that nonsense. I guess this is why a thread that should have been in the Kitchen Sink remains in General. This thing started with a political agenda, in my opinion, and continues with one, it appears. Why didn't you link the actual law, instead of an opinion of the law? I think the real law reads differently than what you think that link supports.

Was this protest even permitted to be in the street? Usually SFMTA will notify the public of street closures. I can't find any notification. Maybe I missed it. Or maybe we are all missing a part of the story that may be relevant. Closing streets with a rally is not passive protesting.

I am having a hard time with the assault charge that seems so easy for Enchanter and others to throw at the biker. I imagine that if this was a different protest and didn't involve a local motorcyclist that many of those calling it assault would change their view. Despite the headlines in the press, the rider didn't try to hit anyone. It would have been VERY easy for him to actually assault someone.

I will look for more light hearted signs. Although I think some are really angst about this thing and my post may be interpreted as some kind of right-wing attack on the sensible, peace loving liberals of California or some other silliness.

Wait, why does a "dillionaire" need "Go Fund Me" dollars?

Where does it say he must "need" it? Lots of people ask for money that they don't "need". Zuckerberg doesn't "need" another dime, but he keeps taking them.

 

[nakedape]

They owe it to him.

The whole thing was filmed with cell phones. No media on scene.

And the rest of the country is laughing about the tender folk, like that woman screaming.
.

Dude, cell phones are the new media. Look it up. The rest of the country? You mean the parts where more than half of the people didn't attend college and vote for ideologues whose first political acts undermine their economy and health?

ITT: stunning hypocracy about the conduct of motorcyclists and our community responsibility, tone deafness, blind partisanship, and drunk logic.

Axe, let me explain two things. Let them sink in before responding, lest you paint yourself more foolish. First is what "emotional" means in the context of this thread. Every time you say "I think" you are REALLY saying, at the primal level, I FEEL. All political reasoning begins with an emotional reaction. I have an emotional reaction (as do many others here) to jefftard's aggressive and damaging behavior. Which gets to the second part, to directly address your direct request that I "prove harm": assault, as an actual LEO was kind enough to point out, is the POTENTIAL, through an act, to cause injury, or lead someone to believe in that moment they COULD be injured. Jefftard's riding into a crowd fulfills that standard. Now I know you and others relate to him more than the dirt bike hooligans you castigate the police for not being able to corral, but at least they have to good sense not to double back and taunt the people they obstruct.

Are you gaining an understanding yet?

Yes or no.

 

[Melissa]

Speed Kills Bears.

whoops, wrong event.

 

[KittenMeat]

that dude is gonna need medicaid/medicare when the copious roids he's injecting give him crotch cancer.

just saying... :rofl