A Solar Ruckus?

rodr

Well-known member
That is going to take a really long time to charge with those little panels angled down. 15 watts of solar is pure gimmik.

Enjoy you bi-weekly ride around the block.

Let's see... 48v x 12AH = 576 watt-hours...
576 WH / 15 watts = 38.4 hours...
except the sun won't be up that long...
so maybe 4-5 days. :laughing
 
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bpw

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Let's see... 48v x 12AH = 576 watt-hours...
576 WH / 15 watts = 38.4 hours...
except the sun won't be up that long...
so maybe 4-5 days. :laughing

Don't forget the panels are at 90 degrees off vertical, they would be very effective in the antarctic at the right time of year, not so much around here. I would be surprised if you could get even 20 watt/hours a day out of those panels.
 

bpw

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Looking at there web-site some more, they are either clueless or con-artists. They claim 6 miles of use per 8 hours of sunlight.

No freaking way is that possible with two vertically mounted 7 watt panels. Even if you did kick the bike over and aim it at the sun you never get more then 7 watts of output since one side is always shaded. 7watts x 8 hours = 56 watt/hours. Or just about 1/10th of the batteries capacity. If there claim of 15 miles from full charge is true that is 1.5 miles for 8 hours of perfect sunlight aimed directly at the panel. Reality is going to be a whole lot less than that.

They see to have missed the basic logic that solar panels need to point at the sun to work.
 

louemc

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Looking at there web-site some more, they are either clueless or con-artists. They claim 6 miles of use per 8 hours of sunlight.

No freaking way is that possible with two vertically mounted 7 watt panels. Even if you did kick the bike over and aim it at the sun you never get more then 7 watts of output since one side is always shaded. 7watts x 8 hours = 56 watt/hours. Or just about 1/10th of the batteries capacity. If there claim of 15 miles from full charge is true that is 1.5 miles for 8 hours of perfect sunlight aimed directly at the panel. Reality is going to be a whole lot less than that.

They see to have missed the basic logic that solar panels need to point at the sun to work.

:thumbup Exactly...Sun tracking devices, to turn and tilt, panels are available for home and commercial scaled panels.

But those panels are in fixed locations...
On a moving vehicle...the complication is insane.

Or...just say...Forget it.
 

stangmx13

not Stan
Looking at there web-site some more, they are either clueless or con-artists. They claim 6 miles of use per 8 hours of sunlight.

No freaking way is that possible with two vertically mounted 7 watt panels.

theres one large panel on the top of the battery box too. so 3 panels total.

really, from the size of those panels, the wattage output is terrible. maybe they know that not all of the panels could ever be in direct sunlight at the same time, so 15W is their conservative estimate or some result of testing.
 
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bpw

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My mistake but...

Even at a full 15 watts they is no way you are getting 6 miles from 8 hours of sun given the range and battery data they provide. And most solar panel calcs only figure on about 5 hours of good sun a day.
 

stangmx13

not Stan
My mistake but...

Even at a full 15 watts they is no way you are getting 6 miles from 8 hours of sun given the range and battery data they provide. And most solar panel calcs only figure on about 5 hours of good sun a day.

assuming u did get a full 15W of charging for 8hrs, the numbers could be worse. they should have said 5 miles.

15W * 8hrs * 3600sec/hr = 432 kJ
( 6mi / 20mph ) * 3600s/hr * 500W = 540 kJ
(20mph is the supposed max speed w/ a 500W engine)

working backwards....
432 kJ * 20mph / (500W * 3600) = 4.8mi

so, ud only get 4.8mi at full bore assuming all their numbers are correct. if u went a little slower, maybe 15mph, u could probably make it 6mi on a theoretical 8hr charge. but ya, factor in the inefficiencies of charging and the fact that u wont get 8hrs... u might make it 2-3mi at a slower pace.

i think its comical that their website lists the Solar Panel as 15W/hr :laughing
 
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