wazzuFreddo
WuTang is 4 the children
Nobody from a development team is running things by a mechanic in San Jose. :laughing
2021 Ford Bronco - shots fired
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Nobody from a development team is running things by a mechanic in San Jose. :laughing
TheRobSJ
Großer Mechaniker
I’m a dealership master mechanic. But I’m also a consultant to the manufacturer. Before taking on that second role, they made me sign a big fat NDA. I sometimes get to hear about and see things that the general public won’t hear about for months...if it’s ever made public at all. Perhaps Everett’s buddy is in a similar position?
wazzuFreddo
WuTang is 4 the children
Maybe, but they’re not even building the thing yet. 1st deliveries are almost a year out.
wazzuFreddo
WuTang is 4 the children
Besides I’m sure if there really is a problem somebody will come along with upgrade parts :dunno
Kornholio
:wave
This.
Perhaps...but I doubt it. I've been around Ford for years and this would be the first time I've ever heard of them doing something like that. You are an Acura master tech, right? It stands to reason that Honda (yes, I went there :laughing ) may be legitimately interested in American mechanical input on new products and such since their core engineering and design teams aren't even located in the United States, right? Ford obviously doesn't suffer from that sort of disconnect in the first place and thus wouldn't need a mechanic from San Jose's input, master tech rating or not.
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TheRobSJ
Großer Mechaniker
You’d be surprised at how much happens inside our borders. There’s Honda which of course is the mothership. And there’s American Honda. Of course some R&D comes from Japan. But some of what AHM does goes the other way too. Vehicles like the Honda Pilot and Acura MDX were almost entirely developed here.
TheRobSJ
Großer Mechaniker
I’ve been there several times. It’s AHM headquarters. Mostly administration kinda stuff. The finance arm is there. Marketing. Executives. Some other cool stuff like the HRC shop for the motocross bikes.
But really, that’s the sizzle. The steak is in Ohio. R&D, Engineering, Operations, three vehicle plants, transmission plant, the largest engine plant in the world, and also the Transportation Research Center facility, which is run by the state but Honda owns all of it. I’ve seen all that a couple times too. Very little reliance on Japan for anything really.
Alan_Hepburn
Well-known member
If he signed an NDA then why would he be disclosing information?
aminalmutha
Well-known member
Just like how Ford and GM have locations in Europe and Asia. Design and build for the local market. Otherwise you end up with shit people won't buy. The Accord is truly an American car. Same can be said for much of what Honda, Toyota and the Koreans offer in the US.
TheRobSJ
Großer Mechaniker
Some people just want to blow the whistle I suppose. Almost five years ago, some anonymous poster on Jalopnik claiming to be an employee at Honda R&D was saying what a disaster the upcoming NSX because the heat shielding was insufficient. It had melted a test driver’s phone that was in the trunk and so on. The specified Continental tires were trash. And a bunch of other information that only someone behind the curtain of a NDA should know. I knew about some of that stuff too, but I sure as hell wasn't going to put it out in the general public. Honda tried to get Jalopnik to dox the guy by giving up IP addresses and so on. And I’m pretty sure they managed to get some of the inflammatory information pulled off their site.
Kornholio
:wave
What do you mean? For many years, The Accord was sold elsewhere outside of North America as an Acura model but it's basically the same car. The Acura Vigor comes to mind as does the Isuzu Asaka. When I was stationed in Korea back in the early oughts, there were Hyundai Sonatas everywhere that were literally the exact same thing that were sold in the U.S. Hell, I even owned one! :laughing
mrzuzzo
Well-known member
I've only lived in Europe outside North America, and the Acura TSX here is what is called the Honda Accord in Europe.
And yeah most of the models are same/similar except for trucks and small cars, although there are some region specific models like the US only Honda Accord.
There are some small differences in engine choices and overall packages but the cars are more or less the same.
Edit: I'm curious how well the Bronco will do considering we are in a pandemic.
And yeah most of the models are same/similar except for trucks and small cars, although there are some region specific models like the US only Honda Accord.
There are some small differences in engine choices and overall packages but the cars are more or less the same.
Edit: I'm curious how well the Bronco will do considering we are in a pandemic.
I’m sure it will do fine. Plenty of people are still buying cars and trucks.
The $92k launch edition TRX sold out in 3 hours.
People are still buying it seems.
Kornholio
:wave
This. Considering that they're literally sold out of all the high-end pre-sell editions, I'd say the signs are good.
Killroy1999
Well-known member
Perhaps, but a mechanic that is not working closely engineering may not be know enough about a prototype build to make a "not a good sign" conclusion regarding a future production vehicle. I would listen too closely to a rumor like that.
Prototypes are typically build with known issues as new designs get built. When we see a production vehicles as a customer, we do not wee all of the eggs broken in the process.
KWeezyXB12
SKRRRRRRRRRRRT!!!!!!
uhhh i hate sizing these lol
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Smash Allen
Banned
The new Raptor has 722hp with 750hp option; your move Ram!
TheRobSJ
Großer Mechaniker
Smash Allen
Banned
Scotty Kilmer, he’s got the low down :thumbup