2018 Race Day Schedule - CHANGES

[fortyonethirty]

I was at the last WERA race at auto club. They get things done a bit quicker by just running fast and loose. For example I was in a race where a bike blew up, huge cloud of smoke, and they didn't stop the race to check for oil, where I think AFM would have. Also, no lunch break for flaggers. I do not want that kind of efficiency.

 

[stangmx13]

I was at the last WERA race at auto club. They get things done a bit quicker by just running fast and loose. For example I was in a race where a bike blew up, huge cloud of smoke, and they didn't stop the race to check for oil, where I think AFM would have. Also, no lunch break for flaggers. I do not want that kind of efficiency.

So u know there was oil on the track? Or u know that WERA didn’t have more info than u, being a race org and all? WERA has been running races for a long time. They know their shit.

Lunch breaks are a waste of time.

 

[scratchpad]

In 2018, the board has decided to try something new for the club; Saturday qualifying sessions for Formula 1, 2, 3, 4, and FP. Additionally, these races are now in the middle of the day, culminating with FP and the FP winner's circle. We've talked about giving all non FP formula classes an extra 2 laps each to further separate the prominence of Formula classes in the AFM, but we have not made that determination yet.

Berto,

Has a determination been made on exactly how many laps all non FP qualifying formula classes will be given?

Exactly how many laps will FP be given?

Exactly how many laps will all other classes be given?

Sonoma Raceway: How many laps, same questions as above, will be given at Sonoma?

 

[fortyonethirty]

So u know there was oil on the track? Or u know that WERA didn’t have more info than u, being a race org and all? WERA has been running races for a long time. They know their shit.

Lunch breaks are a waste of time.

There was no oil on the track, that was shown by the fact that no one fell on the next lap.

Race director was unaware that a bike had blown up. I know that because I was the one who told him about it. All they knew was that a rider had not come around, and that no one knew where he was. They had no idea why he didn't come around, but continued the race anyway, with a rider missing. The flagger at the nearest corner didn't tell race direction that a bike blew up.

It wasn't small potatoes either, look here: http://www.caliphotography.com/photos/index.php?do=photocart&viewGallery=71474#page=thumbs

The flaggers deserve a lunch break. I think the current schedule of one hour might be too much. But how about 20-30 minutes?

 

[scratchpad]

In 2018, the board has decided to try something new for the club; Saturday qualifying sessions for Formula 1, 2, 3, 4, and FP. Additionally, these races are now in the middle of the day, culminating with FP and the FP winner's circle. We've talked about giving all non FP formula classes an extra 2 laps each to further separate the prominence of Formula classes in the AFM, but we have not made that determination yet. Regardless, the new schedule layout and updated Formula classes will make a race day geared more towards bikes in class championships and Formula championships where we push competition among a wider range of bikes within each Formula championship.

I'm really excited to see how this all works out, but it's something we've talked about for years and are finally taking a shot at!

Long Live the AFM, 2018!!!

Prominence? Really? What has changed other than qualifying for these "premier" Formula classes?
You want to push competition then add more laps instead of baiting it. Thatll make them more prominant and premier.
Whats the reason for qualifying if its still the same race with 6 laps. Only thing different is one has to pay for Sat. practice in order to grid qualify for the race.

But, you are adding more laps (12) to FP every round. :thumbup Good to see the push in competition in FP when more laps are added. :thumbup

 

[eeeeek]

Lunch breaks are a waste of time.

Lunch break is a 100% necessity for all the workers. Do you really want all the workers to be hangry?

A typical AFM worker's day on Race Sunday starts at about 7AM. If things go well, it ends at about 4-5 PM. Are you really suggesting leaving all the corner workers out in the weeds for a minimum of 9 hours straight?

The AFM grids are quite a bit bigger than WERA. Timing and scoring need the time to allow for changes to the afternoon races and to take a mental break. It's a stressful job and if you think it's as simple as letting the computer system take over, you are sorely mistaken. I have yet to see a race where all the transponders worked (riders don't charge them, forget to put them on, etc) and the process of figuring out who isn't pinging and then tracking them every lap is a huge PITA. If it's a multiple wave race, good luck.

If the lunch break went away, I suspect you would lose at least half the workers.

 

[Holeshot]

Prominence? Really? What has changed other than qualifying for these "premier" Formula classes?
You want to push competition then add more laps instead of baiting it. Thatll make them more prominant and premier.

Agree and we talked about this before doing qualifying. The push wasn't there for a few more laps, but we can still add them in round 3 or 4.

Vik, good explanation. We don't want Hangry workers!

 

[#1Spies Fan]

Agree and we talked about this before doing qualifying. The push wasn't there for a few more laps, but we can still add them in round 3 or 4.

Vik, good explanation. We don't want Hangry workers!

hold on hold on...I'm racing round 3 and its been a while since I threw a leg over the bike...lets not run around adding laps to races all willy nilly here...:laughing

 

[Holeshot]

hold on hold on...I'm racing round 3 and its been a while since I threw a leg over the bike...lets not run around adding laps to races all willy nilly here...:laughing

I'm in my 40's...you think I WANT more laps? Let's do a relay if we add more laps...just for us.

 

[Corey]

I'm in my 50's and want more laps. Some of the rabbits fade, and some of the turtles will pass them up.

Laps or time for a race. For example, 8 laps or 20 minutes, whichever comes first. If there is a red flag, and we run out of time for that race, the race is final. If we have time at the end of the day to continue with a red-flagged races it will continue. Something to think about.

 

[easter bunny]

Shame on me for not checking the new race schedule until now (since I was skipping the BW rounds). I'm the last 2 races each day. Back to back both days. I didn't think to check that the order of races or the A/B schedule would change from last year.

 

[Holeshot]

What races Easter Bunny?

 

[easter bunny]

F40, Clubman Heavy, Legacy Heavy, Open Prod.

 

[Gavin Botha]

Berto you can kill 2 birds with 1 stone by swapping the first and second race on Saturday. Will fix bunnies problem as well as the back to back F40 Heavy/F50

 

[2wls4ever]

Fomula classes extra laps

The upcoming issue of City Bike will have our upcoming Buttonwillow schedule for the March round printed in the center spread.

In 2018, the board has decided to try something new for the club; Saturday qualifying sessions for Formula 1, 2, 3, 4, and FP. Additionally, these races are now in the middle of the day, culminating with FP and the FP winner's circle. We've talked about giving all non FP formula classes an extra 2 laps each to further separate the prominence of Formula classes in the AFM, but we have not made that determination yet. Regardless, the new schedule layout and updated Formula classes will make a race day geared more towards bikes in class championships and Formula championships where we push competition among a wider range of bikes within each Formula championship.

I'm really excited to see how this all works out, but it's something we've talked about for years and are finally taking a shot at!

Long Live the AFM, 2018!!!

Are we going to get the extra two laps mentioned. We didn't in the first two rounds. It seems appropriate since we are forced to pay for Sat practice in order to qualify.

 

[Holeshot]

We're still trying to make sure we've got enough time for the qualifying alone. 2 extra laps would be cool.

 

[scratchpad]

We're still trying to make sure we've got enough time for the qualifying alone. 2 extra laps would be cool.

The extra 4 laps each round that were given to FP can be equally distributed to the other Formula classes this round. 2 laps per class. Solved.

 

[#1Spies Fan]

Which schedule is correct...motorsportsreg or the AFM website?

 

[Holeshot]

MSR

 

[Holeshot]

F40 Mid/ Heavy is now the first race on Saturday.