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That sounds like you ate a shit sandwich and got comped a free lunch.The guy attempted to change lanes while I passed him in his own lane.
That sounds like you ate a shit sandwich and got comped a free lunch.The guy attempted to change lanes while I passed him in his own lane.
How the hell does he know? Budman did not see the guidelines being removed. No I did not see that coming.
This thread is thoroughly confusing. What is your FINAL stance, Budman?
Oppose any law on the principle that we have too many laws. I agree.
Yup
Oppose this law because YOU want to split at faster speeds.
Nope
Find someway to make sure we don't lose lane-splitting altogether? I hope.
Yup... even if that eventually means supporting a bill.
I hope we are reasonable with our goals. I have lost many battles because of my principles. I don't want to go the wrong direction here and lose the right to split because of other ideals.
I didn't read all 17 pages, but one point worth making...
Rather than having a bunch of people go talk to and pester Quirk, each of us that cares about this issue should write our own district assembly member. Quirk will not pay the tiniest bit of attention to anyone who doesn't reside in his assembly district.
Regarding AB 51 as referenced here:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/15-16/bill/asm/ab_0051-0100/ab_51_bill_20141201_introduced.pdf
As a motorcyclist I urge you to oppose this bill as it is currently worded. It is based on the now-defunct CHP guidelines which are not appropriate because they try to work with existing law. If there will be a new law it needs to be done right and in a way that is a win-win for both motorcyclists and car drivers.
For example to forbid "crossing the line" is silly, because doing that according to car positions is essential for maximum safety.
I have more thoughts than can be expressed here and invite you to contact me to discuss further. Thank you.
Right on Rod. :thumbup
Good thing we are both taken, otherwise I would make a pass. :sexHell yes!!
Answers in BOLD Duh?? :laughing
His bill isn't so bad. So don't go too overboard. We need more friends, not less. Maybe someone else in the legislature talked about banning the practice, and this was his compromise. I don't know, but "sugar makes better candy than vinegar." Or something like that.Small world, indeed. I grew up in Hayward and Bill Quirk was on the city council for a long time. I went to high school and was friends with his son, Ian Quirk. I might have to reach out to Ian to talk some sense into his dad.
Here's what I just sent to my assembly member Jim Frazier:
I have more thoughts than can be expressed here and invite you to discuss it further over 18 holes at Pebble Beach. Thank you.
My new fear is that my assembly rep will call me to get my further thoughts. Then I better know what to say. :laughing
Sure wish we had more consensus here. :|
My new fear is that my assembly rep will call me to get my further thoughts. Then I better know what to say. :laughing
Sure wish we had more consensus here. :|
Regarding AB 51 as referenced here:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/15-16/...introduced.pdf
I'm a long time motorcyclist and lane splitter, and feel fortunate California is with the rest of the world in allowing it. I urge you to oppose this and any related legislation, and remind your colleagues that law enforcement already has the appropriate discretion and tools to ensure public safety.
Thanks you for your time.
A vehicle shall be driven as nearly as practical entirely within a single lane and shall not be moved from the lane until such movement can be made with reasonable safety.
Regarding AB 51 as referenced here:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/15-16/...introduced.pdf
As a motorcyclist I urge you to oppose this bill as it is currently worded. It is based on the now-defunct CHP guidelines which are not appropriate because they try to work with existing law. If there will be a new law it needs to be done right and in a way that is a win-win for both motorcyclists and car drivers.
For example to forbid "crossing the line" is silly, because doing that according to car positions is essential for maximum safety.
I have more thoughts than can be expressed here and invite you to contact me to discuss further. Thank you.
Regarding AB 51 as referenced here:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/15-16/...introduced.pdf
As a motorcyclist I urge you to oppose this bill as it is currently written. If there is to be a new law, it needs to be done right and in a way that is a win-win for both motorcyclists and car drivers as was outlined in the CHP's Lane Splitting General Guidelines published earlier this year.
For example, existing law allows a vehicle to share a lane with another vehicle and to move into or out of that lane as long as it is practical and safe to do within existing speed limits.
AB 51 restricts a motorcycle riders ability to react to other vehicles moving near and around them on a crowded highway. This strikes at the very heart of motorcycle safety. To obey AB 51 as written could potentially force a motorcycle rider to maintain an unsafe position next to, behind or in front of an inattentive or erratic vehicle operator. Very dangerous.
I have been riding motorcycles in California for over 40 years, I would be delighted to share my insight with you or your staff regarding AB 51 and I invite you to contact me to discuss further. Thank you.
^^^ you can oppose the bill, full stop.
Chris, that looks great to me. Thanks for taking the time to make it better!