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2015 Anti-Lane Splitting Bill (Assembly Bill 51)
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radvas
Well-known member
I didn't read all 17 pages, but one point worth making...
Rather than having a bunch of people go talk to and pester Quirk, each of us that cares about this issue should write our own district assembly member. Quirk will not pay the tiniest bit of attention to anyone who doesn't reside in his assembly district.
Rather than having a bunch of people go talk to and pester Quirk, each of us that cares about this issue should write our own district assembly member. Quirk will not pay the tiniest bit of attention to anyone who doesn't reside in his assembly district.
rodr
Well-known member
Absolutely.
You can find your California reps here:
http://findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov/
Here's what I just sent to my assembly member Jim Frazier:
Marcoose
50-50
Ditto. Message sent to Assemblyman.
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starlightfury
Member
Small world, indeed. I grew up in Hayward and Bill Quirk was on the city council for a long time. I went to high school and was friends with his son, Ian Quirk. I might have to reach out to Ian to talk some sense into his dad.
clutchslip
Not as fast as I look.
Good thing we are both taken, otherwise I would make a pass. :sex
:laughing
His bill isn't so bad. So don't go too overboard. We need more friends, not less. Maybe someone else in the legislature talked about banning the practice, and this was his compromise. I don't know, but "sugar makes better candy than vinegar." Or something like that.
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SD Hornet
rider
boney
Miles > Posts
Your rep represents you. Not BARF. If you'd like to tow the party line, that's your perogotive. If you have other thoughts, then that's your choice as well.
Obviously there is not, nor is there going to be consensus here. Stand up for what you think is right. :thumbup
Extra spaces not mine either.
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Consensus is that nobody wants to see it banned. Disagreements are whether we need a law to do that. Like was said, if you really think we need a law then you have a right to express that opinion.
As for me, I think I'm aligned with Budman. Don't want another law unless absolutely necessary.
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HeatXfer
Not Erudite, just er
Rod, thanks for getting that ball rolling. I'm ready to send a copy-pasta of your letter. I with no disrespect I'd like to point out that nowhere in the bill is the phrase "crossing the line". I see what you did and I understand why because I ride. But I think the majority of the people we're writing to don't ride. It is certainly inferred but without a basic understanding of what we know, I think it's a bit confusing to quote a phrase that's not in the bill or existing law.
Beyond all that, after reading AB 51 a few times, I find the only problem coming from it's implementation is the speed restrictions. Otherwise there is no change to existing law. (CVC 21658)
From AB 51 quotes existing law:
Seems reasonable to me and we already live with that rule. But the speed limitations potentially take away the ability of a rider to be proactive or to make positive and safe judgment calls when reacting to hazardous situations.
I've written this version of it, and I hope you can see what I did and why.
I have not sent this because I'd like to get feed back from the forum.
Thanks
EDIT: Sorry about the skipped spaces, I can't edit them out.
Beyond all that, after reading AB 51 a few times, I find the only problem coming from it's implementation is the speed restrictions. Otherwise there is no change to existing law. (CVC 21658)
From AB 51 quotes existing law:
Seems reasonable to me and we already live with that rule. But the speed limitations potentially take away the ability of a rider to be proactive or to make positive and safe judgment calls when reacting to hazardous situations.
I have not sent this because I'd like to get feed back from the forum.
Thanks
EDIT: Sorry about the skipped spaces, I can't edit them out.
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metrorollah
OWHLY?
Wow, I am at once shocked, impressed, and grateful. Thank you to everyone who is using your own good intentions and making a difference on your own. I believe that even those that create noise in support this bill can be useful to the cause of revising it on its first pass.
Opinionated individuality in opposing the bill (as it is currently written) is the exact response I hoped to elicit in calling attention to this bill, even if my own admittedly extremist stance is at times not well garnered. Some of you might say that the thread title was deceptive, or that another person may have handled it more to the liking of reasonable, helpful people who do not wish to be propagandized. I don't disagree with those criticisms.
I believe that we as a community should ride responsibly, and that rider education is key. All these loud pipes, stunting on the freeway, and lane splitting at high speed... its all just illegal fringe activity. I don't participate in any of it, but I don't need new laws that force me to ride within limits that someone else's irresponsibility has forced into place. In that way I stand with those riders, and in staunch opposition to those that wish to see those riders stopped. I wholeheartedly believe that this is a right and just path.
My father taught me to know which side my bread is buttered on. This bill, if it passes, won't really hurt anyone, but it won't help anyone either. It's just more red tape written by another miserable cager. I hope to see AB51 disintegrate and eventually disappear, and if you agree, the brotherhood puts our money where your mouth's are.
Opinionated individuality in opposing the bill (as it is currently written) is the exact response I hoped to elicit in calling attention to this bill, even if my own admittedly extremist stance is at times not well garnered. Some of you might say that the thread title was deceptive, or that another person may have handled it more to the liking of reasonable, helpful people who do not wish to be propagandized. I don't disagree with those criticisms.
I believe that we as a community should ride responsibly, and that rider education is key. All these loud pipes, stunting on the freeway, and lane splitting at high speed... its all just illegal fringe activity. I don't participate in any of it, but I don't need new laws that force me to ride within limits that someone else's irresponsibility has forced into place. In that way I stand with those riders, and in staunch opposition to those that wish to see those riders stopped. I wholeheartedly believe that this is a right and just path.
My father taught me to know which side my bread is buttered on. This bill, if it passes, won't really hurt anyone, but it won't help anyone either. It's just more red tape written by another miserable cager. I hope to see AB51 disintegrate and eventually disappear, and if you agree, the brotherhood puts our money where your mouth's are.
HeatXfer
Not Erudite, just er
I was thinking that way, but the need to clarify my position is just too great. I couldn't just say no and expect a chance to explain later.
Rod, Thank you! I hope more follow your lead and make direct contact with their elected officials. I don't know that it's better, but it is my view as I understand the issue. :thumbup