You AR15 nuts
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dmaxAl
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Google "bindon aiming concept".
Basically only works with low/no magnification sights. Both eyes open, brain superimposes the red dot onto regular vision. Fast(er) target acquisition as your non scope eye has a field of view around the scope body etc.
A decent red dot (I use Aimpoint M2's) has an incredibly long battery life, and you can dial in the dot intensity based on ambient light.
Basically only works with low/no magnification sights. Both eyes open, brain superimposes the red dot onto regular vision. Fast(er) target acquisition as your non scope eye has a field of view around the scope body etc.
A decent red dot (I use Aimpoint M2's) has an incredibly long battery life, and you can dial in the dot intensity based on ambient light.
Dr. Evil
Mother of God.
No, they're for short-to-mid-range shooting.
They really aren't any better than iron sights from an accuracy standpoint, but they beat irons all to hell when it comes to drawing a bead on your target as quickly as possible. Rather than being a pair of markers you must align, they simply present you with a boresighted, collimated dot focused at infinity. From there, it's just point and shoot.
They really aren't any better than iron sights from an accuracy standpoint, but they beat irons all to hell when it comes to drawing a bead on your target as quickly as possible. Rather than being a pair of markers you must align, they simply present you with a boresighted, collimated dot focused at infinity. From there, it's just point and shoot.
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Ant
Pink Freud
Ant
Pink Freud
Can you shoot long distance with that like 100 yds? (for me that's long distance)
kingmoochr
WHARRGARBL
I had a eotech with magnifier VERY briefly. the dot obscures a significant portion of the target if you intend to try and shoot small things at a range. sold them and bought a trijicon ta01nsn. much better choice for target shooting (if you still need to look tacticool). as stated, red dots are for quick target acquisition, not deliberate precision target shooting.
dmaxAl
Well-known member
Should have asked what you intend to do with the rifle. You mentioned 100 yards is long range. 9x is pretty high magnification for that range, imho.
Someone else mentioned an acog. They are nice, but fixed magnification and pricey (because you can beat the snot out of them and they will work).
I have one of these on one of my AR's:
http://www.opticsplanet.com/leupold...0mm-m2-matte-illuminated-spr-rifle-scope.html
Ok still pricey, but cheaper than the acog
Turn the magnification down for fast acquisition, and up when you want to work 100 yards (They will do more and are bullet drop compensated to way more than you need).
Someone else mentioned an acog. They are nice, but fixed magnification and pricey (because you can beat the snot out of them and they will work).
I have one of these on one of my AR's:
http://www.opticsplanet.com/leupold...0mm-m2-matte-illuminated-spr-rifle-scope.html
Ok still pricey, but cheaper than the acog
Turn the magnification down for fast acquisition, and up when you want to work 100 yards (They will do more and are bullet drop compensated to way more than you need).
Ant
Pink Freud
Should have asked what you intend to do with the rifle. You mentioned 100 yards is long range. 9x is pretty high magnification for that range, imho.
Someone else mentioned an acog. They are nice, but fixed magnification and pricey (because you can beat the snot out of them and they will work).
I have one of these on one of my AR's:
http://www.opticsplanet.com/leupold...0mm-m2-matte-illuminated-spr-rifle-scope.html
Ok still pricey, but cheaper than the acog
Turn the magnification down for fast acquisition, and up when you want to work 100 yards (They will do more and are bullet drop compensated to way more than you need).
Just want to punch paper at the range and blast cans, jugs of water and such. Been looking at the Nikon Prostaff line like this: http://www.opticsplanet.com/nikon-riflescope-prostaff-3-9x40.html
Ducky_Fresh
Treasure Hunter
Aimpoint compm4s, and dont look back..
Trijicon 3x30 if you want more range.
Trijicon 3x30 if you want more range.
Asphaultnaut
Own the Mess You've Made!
red dot/holosight pros: makes hitting a target at 50 yards or less almost guaranteed.
red dot/holosight cons: needing to switch the thing on and off, being reliant on batteries regardless of how long they last.
tho that self-lluminating meprolight unit, like the IDF is using, would be sweet if it wasn't priced so high.
for my AR based 22 target rifle, I went with a traditional non powered scope for 100yd plus use. I don't need rapid target acquisition CQB capability with little 40 grains lol
red dot/holosight cons: needing to switch the thing on and off, being reliant on batteries regardless of how long they last.
tho that self-lluminating meprolight unit, like the IDF is using, would be sweet if it wasn't priced so high.
for my AR based 22 target rifle, I went with a traditional non powered scope for 100yd plus use. I don't need rapid target acquisition CQB capability with little 40 grains lol
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2strokeYardSale
Moab on my mind
A non-magnified red dot optic works like this: You keep both eyes open, focused on the target. Therefore, you have a giant field of view (unlike a magnified scope) and you aren't shifting focus back and forth (unlike iron sights). Therefore, it absolutely kicks ass at transitioning from target to target.
It's also stupid accurate out to 50y as Asphaultnaut said. Depending on the size of the dot, it gets more difficult to shoot as the perceived size of the target gets smaller at longer range.
You also have the benefit of illumination for low light (darkness) where you might not be able to see a standard magnified scope reticle.
A magnified optic has the advantage on very small targets (golf balls, clay pigeons, critters, zombie noggins) and distances beyond 100 yards, where your vision is the limiting factor, not the scope reticle.
Red dots can be co-witnessed with iron sights, so if the optic fails you just use the irons without touching a thing.
It's also stupid accurate out to 50y as Asphaultnaut said. Depending on the size of the dot, it gets more difficult to shoot as the perceived size of the target gets smaller at longer range.
You also have the benefit of illumination for low light (darkness) where you might not be able to see a standard magnified scope reticle.
A magnified optic has the advantage on very small targets (golf balls, clay pigeons, critters, zombie noggins) and distances beyond 100 yards, where your vision is the limiting factor, not the scope reticle.
Red dots can be co-witnessed with iron sights, so if the optic fails you just use the irons without touching a thing.
uhmeebuh
Ginger Ape
As everyone has said, the RDS' are generally for closer distance (<50 yards), it can be quite accurate to 100+ yards if you account for bullet drop. Here's my first outing with my EOTech @100 yards. I'm not a great shot and I know a few guys in this thread that can *easily* make them all in the 10 ring with a RDS. It's the Indian, not the arrow....but it's nice to have a bad ass arrow :laughing
I *REALLY* want a Trijicon ACOG...but they are really expensive and I like the challenge of shooting at 100 yards with a RDS.
I *REALLY* want a Trijicon ACOG...but they are really expensive and I like the challenge of shooting at 100 yards with a RDS.
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Ant
Pink Freud
Dumb Q: using a red dot, the front AR sight won't be in the way?
*VillageIdiot*
"and a step to the right"
Yup me too. Gimme a stock runner all day.
Our M4's come like dress up toys.
Things I hate. Forward Assists, Aimpoints, EOTechs, blech.
