To the people in the keigwins motorhome.

Entoptic

Red Power!
I didn't comment when you parked your trailer across a space that our friends had already claimed and was obviously already taken, even though there is plenty of space. We can shuffle things around and make room I suppose...

What really bothers me though...



It's nearly 1am, track curfew was over an hour ago...

You have bright lights on, you're playing music, arguing, laughing, and drunk girls are shrieking and dancing around meer feet from our tent. You are slamming doors, and stomping around in what I can only assume are wooden shoes.

I've asked you twice to be quiet, as have others.

Its rude, and you should be ashamed.

Sorry for your loss of sleep. Have you tried Burningman?
 

UDRider

FLCL?
If that's how you call putting things into perspective, then yes. Poor snowflakes.

What perspective, that if you can afford something some others can't, or don't want to spend money on, you somehow loose the right to air grievances when some jackasses voilate social norms and formal rules?

So Mark at what point in the income scale do YOU think one can't complain about noise disturbance that fucks with ones sleep, plans, violates rules of the establishment?
 

Blankpage

alien
What perspective, that if you can afford something some others can't, or don't want to spend money on, you somehow loose the right to air grievances when some jackasses voilate social norms and formal rules?

So Mark at what point in the income scale do YOU think one can't complain about noise disturbance that fucks with ones sleep, plans, violates rules of the establishment?

If line 36 on your tax filing is greater than line 22 then you are allowed to complain about anyone messing with your sleep. Else suck it up snowflake.
 

shouldnthave

Taze away, Yana...
Seems more like the drug rich, internet rich mind set. Keigwin didn't grow that business by being an asshole. MOST capitalists want happy customers because they keep coming back to spend money. Or has that part of capitalism slipped past your stream of consciousness?

If this was their track day, this should go into track days to really stir the "pot". I hope they apologize, regardless of what you do.

Just for the record I did buy bottles of scotch with Lance Keigwin and friends and we would consume them at the track. I do not recall partying late unless there was NOT a trackday the following day.

Haha! Very puny!

Lance is a good dude, sad he's no longer involved with Keigwins because it used to be a real classy (family like) production. Before it was a circus I held them as one of the top providers in the game.
 

Ogier le Danois

Well-known member
Try to resolve it with them if it was their track day. If they don't offer an adequate response, file a dispute on your credit card and stop using their services.
 

Bassem

Well-known member
Well let me be the first to apologize for some fuck ups acting like they are anybody in the paddock. One of Szymon's relatives borrowed his RV to come up and ride the Fun Track Days event. Not sure how many other ass hats that he had brought with them to party it up and cause a scene.

Nobody that was there works for Keigwins in any way. He apparently thought he was somebody that night because they had borrowed Szymon's RV.

None of you will ever have to see any of those people at the track ever again. They will not be welcome at our track days, for acting that way at yours. We don't approve of any of their behavior. We wouldn't not tolerate him acting that way in our paddock, and would not expect them to act that way in yours.

Words can't express sorry I am that these people were acting like this. I promise it will never happen again.

Jesse Carter
Keigwins@theTrack

:thumbup
 

corndog67

Pissant Squid
This juxtaposition is hilarious if you know the truth. The owners of Kegwins are huge pot kingpins. That's how they afford all of the toys. They aren't making a dime on the track days all said and done. It's all a giant money laundering scheme. How do you think they could afford a track day for a dollar last year?

The real issue is how it's effectively hurting the people that are the respectful champions of the sport. If you want to blacklist Keigwins do it because they are systematically chopping the legs of all the other providers just for a tax loophole.

Do you know this for a fact? Has it been proven in court, have they admitted it openly, or is it a rumor? Gotta watch those rumors. Most of them turn out to be either false, or embellished a great deal.
 

afm199

Well-known member
Do you know this for a fact? Has it been proven in court, have they admitted it openly, or is it a rumor? Gotta watch those rumors. Most of them turn out to be either false, or embellished a great deal.

And some of them turn out to be libel or slander, which are areas that have severe repercussions.
 

Hyperborea

Abiding
Not that effective on a trackday trailer with an onboard.compressor.

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shouldnthave

Taze away, Yana...
Do you know this for a fact? Has it been proven in court, have they admitted it openly, or is it a rumor? Gotta watch those rumors. Most of them turn out to be either false, or embellished a great deal.

Whelp, I guess everyone that knows, knows, and everyone else just speculates. I would submit that the speculators just aren't paying enough attention though. But what do I know?
 

RedSky

Member
Let's the game.. end!!

Guys, first of all thank you all for you attention to the details and for your responses! I bet nobody from Keigwins wouldn’t know about this if you didn’t post it!

Although everybody might have their concerns (for their own reasons), but the fact is that it wasn’t just a “mistake” (which not suppose to happen in any situation, no matter who would it be and behave like that), but it’s definitely misunderstanding - like Jesse said: “One of Szymon’s relatives borrowed his RV to come up and ride the Fun Track Days event” and I can assure you, that person is not the Keigwins Instructor or part of the Team, he is not even related to the Keigwins!

Keigwins wouldn’t allow such kind of behavior and definitely react right away if something like that would happen at the Keigwins event!!! Btw: did you know that many Instructors stay at the paddock not only to enjoy beautiful nights at the track but also to keep an eye on everything?!

This company went through some changes (including ownership - yes, if you didn’t know yet: Lance sold his business to Jesse and Szymon, who are doing their best to still keep the tradition and make their customers happy), and I believe that’s the reason that no matter what and how hard the Keigwings will work on their name and try to keep everything in one safe piece, there sill will be complainer(s) who will not get that - not even try to!!

So Guys, why don’t you try to see it from the different perspective (I know it would be easier if the “problematic RV” didn’t have Keigwins logo wrapped on it) - somebody made a mess at the track and didn’t allow somebody else to get rest.. but seriously, is it a true reason to rise such a hater flag and blame the Keigwins for everything??!! If one, potentially German guy made you piss off (you though he's German), would you blame all Germany for that??!! If your answer is yes, then please take a cold shower :)

And all these "pot's kings" thing.. people, really???? You must seriously be bored to death with all of these posts a tried to get more attention!! (that's only my humble opinion of course)... Sooo pathetic!!

But getting back to the main subject: let’s just learn from there and not let something like this ever happen again!! Just saying!!

“Words can't express sorry I am that these people were acting like this. I promise it will never happen again.” - Jesse Carter | Keigwins@theTrack
 
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Holeshot

Super Moderator
Staff member
I rode today at Thill and saw the Keigwins rig there. FWIW, it was a PTT day and that's what struck me as odd...I rode over and thought I'd be able to get Jesse or Cory out to spin some laps and low and behold: I didn't recognize a soul there. It was like the thing was stolen or something...

I rode a Keigwins trackday Monday at Sonoma and was impressed with the whole shebang, just as I am with PTT and Z2. Glad Jesse got on here and gave us the what's up.

I wouldn't hold this against Keigwins, IMO. Next time, find track management and give Michael a heads up at PTT. It's a bummer they were in the wrong paddock the whole time...Fun trackdays was on the West course.

None the less, my day friggin rocked!
 
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