The Deanster
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Shameless :bump 150 and counting. Please get your uncles' cousins' brother-in laws to sign!
Please sign petition to open Zero Emission OHV park in SJ
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Corb
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I signed it, cos I was asked nicely.
My only worry is that I hope it won't hurt Metcalf in any way. Even though I don't live in BA anymore, I've always really liked that place. Haters always rip on it because its too small, but it has the exact type of trails I enjoy riding most and it is so awesome how accessible is to Bay Area people.
Even when I lived in Dublin/Pleasanton for 4years I still preferred to drive over to Metcalf over Carnegie.
My only worry is that I hope it won't hurt Metcalf in any way. Even though I don't live in BA anymore, I've always really liked that place. Haters always rip on it because its too small, but it has the exact type of trails I enjoy riding most and it is so awesome how accessible is to Bay Area people.
Even when I lived in Dublin/Pleasanton for 4years I still preferred to drive over to Metcalf over Carnegie.
The Deanster
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Thanks! I don't think this will have much of an effect on Metcalf. It's a totally different riding environment. You won't see any of the Metcalf steep single track like the one I thought I was going to die on here. This will be more wide open with man made terrain.
Is Metcalf overcrowded nowadays?
You may have missed my post whereas certain people are interested in expanding Metcalf but financial circumstances are preventing any movement. I'm all for that!
Corb
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There is always a push to close OHV parks for all sorts of reasons. I'm just worried that with a zero emission alternative in BA the people who push to close Metcalf will have more ammo.
Hopefully I'm just being overly paranoid.
The Deanster
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Ok, got it. The state is not pushing to close or restrict any existing parks. The language in the OHMVR Division strategic plan says "promote zero emission vehicles". Something like this qualifies I guess. They want to help push any evolution and let it happen not force anything.
I can't see the county trying it either. Can you imagine the uproar if they closed a park or tried to make existing bikes illegal? It'd be like trying to take away people's cars or legal guns. Nobody wants to deal with that.
The zero emission angle here was my idea so it would fit in with this land and their "clean energy" theme of the light industrial development along 237.
I'll quote what I wrote earlier.. "Nobody is pushing to keep gas bikes out of any existing parks. That's not going to happen. The worst I could think of is if they expanded Metcalf Motorcycle Park into the UTC property and only allowed e-bikes in there and that would be because of the endangered plants that hate nitrogen that exhaust deposits on the ground".
Edit: I guess the BLM was willing to deal with closing Clear Creek with the scary, OMG! asbestos ammunition but I don't think this rises to that level. I hope that bill passes.
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The Deanster
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Thanks everybody, 213 and counting! :thumbup:banana
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The Deanster
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Thanks! Up to 269 now :ride
I heard Obama today talking about the Paris (climate) Agreement, and that it would spurn technology for more environmentally frindly systems (paraphased, I am searching for the text).
This park is exactly that. It will help develop technologies that will be implemented in currently unforeseen areas of our lives.
San Jose can lead the world in reversing climate change! Or something. This certianly further establishes us as a leader.
This park is exactly that. It will help develop technologies that will be implemented in currently unforeseen areas of our lives.
San Jose can lead the world in reversing climate change! Or something. This certianly further establishes us as a leader.
The Deanster
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When Obama was speaking outside Solyndra in Fremont I was going to hop the fence, reach into my vest pocket and hand this proposal to him but there were too many guys in black suits and sunglasses around so I decided not too
BTW, 287 signatures and counting :banana
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The Deanster
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When Obama was speaking outside Solyndra in Fremont I was going to hop the fence, reach into my vest pocket and hand this proposal to him but there were too many guys in black suits and sunglasses around so I decided not too
BTW, 287 signatures and counting :banana
300!!! :wow
Link to Petition here
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gixxerjeff
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Rare mass email from Bud = serious shit! :laughing:thumbup
The Deanster
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Thanks! :thumbup 120 more needed to get to 500! One last push, get your kids to sign and say how cool it would be, ages would be great.
Any dirty girls (ya know, from dirt biking) that can sign and comment on family fun and getting kids outdoors?
Lets do this! 500 sounds pretty impressive to me. Please share.
Link to petition
The Deanster
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Call to action!!
As I said, this is at a critical stage.
We want the city to lease the state 40 acres for a demo park now while development proceeds around it for ten years. After that the park would hopefully move into the much larger area.
Now they want to use it for a staging area and are saying the 40 acres won't be available for ten years. We need to send a message - make a compromise, move or share the staging area. The land is being graded now!
CALL TO ACTION!!
Please attend and speak at the next Treatment Plant Advisory Committee meeting. San Jose Mayor Liccardo is the Chairperson. State Park Staff will be present.
The next monthly TPAC Meeting is at City Hall, October 13, 2016, at 4:00 p.m., 200 E. Santa Clara St. Room 1734.
http://www.sanjoseca.gov/index.aspx?NID=392
Please reply if going so I can estimate attendance.
Below is what I read to them at the last meeting.
Thanks in advance!
Good afternoon, I would like to update the advisory committee on the Zero Emission Park proposal submitted during the plant land public comment period. The proposal calls for creating the world's first solar powered, zero emission recreational vehicle park on plant lands.Ultimately the park would exist in the reclaimed drying pond area designated as flexible space and along the Bay.
This project would be a collaboration of California State Parks, San Jose Parks, A nonprofit park foundation and small business.
State Parks is very interested in helping to open and fund this innovative public park as a California State Park on plant land.
Although the reclaimed flexible space land will not be available for some time State Parks is interested in opening a demonstration park on the 40 acre plot designated as recreation in the plant land EIR as soon as possible.
If the land were fenced with an appropriate buffer to the property line low level activities and park construction can proceed and not interfere with surrounding development. The plant construction staging area or recreation plot can be adjusted if needed until development is complete.
San Jose Parks expressed concern about expending city resources, however, State Parks can and are willing to operate and administer the park on plant land under a co-management and lease agreement with the city, nonprofit park foundation and concessionaire business. Minimal city resources will be needed and any costs incurred will be reimbursed by State Parks.
In fact, when the flexible space land is reclaimed and if a park is approved State Parks and the nonprofit foundation will be responsible for all environmental restoration, habitat and species stewardship, planning the park and building the paved muti-use and unpaved trails, nature education center and kiosks. The park foundation would utilize several grant funds to accomplish all of the above. This will relieve the city of a huge burden.
This proposal offers a viable alternative to industrial development in the flexible space. Most of the flexible space will remain open space. For the use of a fraction of the land the park will provide all of the funding, staff and expertise to restore, maintain and provide stewardship for all of the land. The leaders of several local chapters of environmental organizations have been notified about this proposal and none are personally opposed.
The goals of the park are to promote electric vehicles and prove their viability for recreation, entice buyers to choose electric vehicles, minimize travel to reduce emissions system wide and provide recreational and nature education opportunities in an urban environment for families and all users.
This would be a regionally attractive recreational destination and an excellent use of land in the capital of Silicon Valley and fits in well with San Jose’s Green Vision Goals and high tech reputation.
See the attached park summary and email from a State Parks Commissioner outlining the State’s desire in this project. I and State Park staff are available to meet and discuss this proposal.
As I said, this is at a critical stage.
We want the city to lease the state 40 acres for a demo park now while development proceeds around it for ten years. After that the park would hopefully move into the much larger area.
Now they want to use it for a staging area and are saying the 40 acres won't be available for ten years. We need to send a message - make a compromise, move or share the staging area. The land is being graded now!
CALL TO ACTION!!
Please attend and speak at the next Treatment Plant Advisory Committee meeting. San Jose Mayor Liccardo is the Chairperson. State Park Staff will be present.
The next monthly TPAC Meeting is at City Hall, October 13, 2016, at 4:00 p.m., 200 E. Santa Clara St. Room 1734.
http://www.sanjoseca.gov/index.aspx?NID=392
Please reply if going so I can estimate attendance.
Below is what I read to them at the last meeting.
Thanks in advance!
Good afternoon, I would like to update the advisory committee on the Zero Emission Park proposal submitted during the plant land public comment period. The proposal calls for creating the world's first solar powered, zero emission recreational vehicle park on plant lands.Ultimately the park would exist in the reclaimed drying pond area designated as flexible space and along the Bay.
This project would be a collaboration of California State Parks, San Jose Parks, A nonprofit park foundation and small business.
State Parks is very interested in helping to open and fund this innovative public park as a California State Park on plant land.
Although the reclaimed flexible space land will not be available for some time State Parks is interested in opening a demonstration park on the 40 acre plot designated as recreation in the plant land EIR as soon as possible.
If the land were fenced with an appropriate buffer to the property line low level activities and park construction can proceed and not interfere with surrounding development. The plant construction staging area or recreation plot can be adjusted if needed until development is complete.
San Jose Parks expressed concern about expending city resources, however, State Parks can and are willing to operate and administer the park on plant land under a co-management and lease agreement with the city, nonprofit park foundation and concessionaire business. Minimal city resources will be needed and any costs incurred will be reimbursed by State Parks.
In fact, when the flexible space land is reclaimed and if a park is approved State Parks and the nonprofit foundation will be responsible for all environmental restoration, habitat and species stewardship, planning the park and building the paved muti-use and unpaved trails, nature education center and kiosks. The park foundation would utilize several grant funds to accomplish all of the above. This will relieve the city of a huge burden.
This proposal offers a viable alternative to industrial development in the flexible space. Most of the flexible space will remain open space. For the use of a fraction of the land the park will provide all of the funding, staff and expertise to restore, maintain and provide stewardship for all of the land. The leaders of several local chapters of environmental organizations have been notified about this proposal and none are personally opposed.
The goals of the park are to promote electric vehicles and prove their viability for recreation, entice buyers to choose electric vehicles, minimize travel to reduce emissions system wide and provide recreational and nature education opportunities in an urban environment for families and all users.
This would be a regionally attractive recreational destination and an excellent use of land in the capital of Silicon Valley and fits in well with San Jose’s Green Vision Goals and high tech reputation.
See the attached park summary and email from a State Parks Commissioner outlining the State’s desire in this project. I and State Park staff are available to meet and discuss this proposal.
The Deanster
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Thanks Butch, I knew I could count on you :thumbup
I just sent this proposal to the San Jose Mercury News. Let's see if they bite :teeth
clutchslip
Not as fast as I look.
To whom are you presenting this petition? Why would the City or County of San Jose care if my uncle from Louisiana, or my cousin from San Diego sign the petition? My experience with government petitions is that they are usually verified against voter rolls. Shouldn't the focus be on the constituency of the officials making the choices?