Your input needed California Motorcycle Safety

silversvs

Lean, Twist, repeat.....
Budman and I sit on a committee tasked with improving motorcycle safety in the state of California. (for more details on the committee see the bottom of this post).

At this time the committee is seeking input from everyone on what the next steps should be to keep improving motorcycle safety in the state. We are open to all ideas and suggestions. We are looking for education, enforcement, engineering, training, and other options that we can work to implement to reverse the trend of rising motorcycle fatality collisions.

So please take a moment and share with us your thoughts and ideas on what can be done to improve our sport and start reducing the number of motorcycle colisions occuring on our roadways.

If you don't want to post your thoughts you can PM me or hit my email jhurd@ci.livermore.ca.us.


Info on what we are, and have been, doing:

Congress recognized the need for a more collaborative approach to safety when it passed the Safe, Accountable, Flexible, Efficient Transportation Equity Act: A Legacy for Users (SAFETEA-LU) in August of 2005. SAFETEA-LU requires each state to develop strategic highway safety plans (SHSP).

The plans must be developed through a collaborative process that involves a wide range of safety stakeholders and must use research and data analysis to identify the most pressing safety problems on all public roads in each state. This collaborative data-driven approach is intended to help a wide array of safety stakeholders to find new and effective methods for working
together.

More than 190 participants from 80 California public and private stakeholder groups worked together and completed the State’s SHSP in September 2006. Using rigorous data analysis, they identified 16 safety “challenge areas” where resources and efforts need to be focused. They developed broad goals and strategies for each of the areas and set an overall goal to reduce the
California roadway fatality rate to less than 1.0 fatality per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT) by 2010.

Budman and I are in volved with a small group working on Challenge Area 12: Improve Motorcycle Safety in the state of California.

The group has reps from CHP, CALTRANS, DMV, MSF, and OTS. Budman and I are more the "man on the street" members and try to bring real world aspects to their thought processes.

The items we are tasked with working on are:

12.1 Develop a monitoring program to identify motorcycle high-collision concentration locations and implement engineering, enforcement, and
education improvements.

12.2 Hold a motorcycle safety summit to review the SHSP actions and create
an action plan for statewide motorcycle safety initiatives. Include
stakeholders representing riders, government, safety organizations, law
enforcement, insurance companies, and dealers.

12.3 Assess both the DMV’s California Driver Handbook and standard
traffic school curriculum for information on sharing the road with
motorcycles and make additions and revisions as necessary.

12.4 Create and implement an on-line traffic violator school curriculum
specifically for motorcyclists.

12.5 Install signs and markings at high-crash concentration locations
involving motorcycles, that are consistent with the CAMUTCD;
remove, relocate, make breakaway or shield fixed objects; consider
crashworthy barriers that are more “forgiving” to motorcyclists, or
make curve corrections.

12.6 Identify owners of motorcycles who are not licensed to operate a
motorcycle and alert them to California’s requirement to be licensed in
order to operate their motorcycle.

12.7 Educate judges, judge pro-tems, and court commissioners through
DMV court liaisons to make them aware that the Basic Rider Course
can be used to educate violators and to help them recognize proper and
legal safety equipment.

12.8 Focus motorcycle-related law enforcement activities on areas with high
motorcycle volumes.

12.9 Develop and implement motorcycle media campaigns such as “Ride
like you’re invisible, not invincible!” using a social marketing approach
and using new media (YouTube, My Space, etc.).

12.10 Encourage the development and distribution of the CHP brochure, a
DVD, and new media that describe the difference between the United
States Department of Transportation (USDOT) and a non-USDOT
approved helmet.

12.11 Encourage use of approved USDOT helmets. Establish opportunities
for helmet exchange and discount certificates towards the purchase of a
safer helmet.

12.12 Create a Motorcycle Initiatives Review Committee to increase quality,
continuity, and relevance of materials as well as to promote sharing of
information related to motorcyclist-safety or motorcycle-awareness.
 

Brokenlink

Banned
This isn't going to make any friends, but I gave up on that a long time ago...

If you want to lower fatalities, make it illegal for dealerships to sell sportbikes to people under 21 with no experience. How often do we hear about the guy that "just bought the bike" and binned it doing a wheelie on 9 passing cars on the double yellow while drinking a beer? OK, maybe never. But you get my point.
 

Aluisious

Well-known member
Probably far beyond the scope of your committee, but it seems to me the best thing that could be done for everyone's safety on the roads would be to develop driving simulators and require people pass a battery of tests involving emergency/tricky driving situations. It clearly works for aviation.

If I die on my bike it will probably be because someone violates my right of way. I don't know what kind of sign or public awareness campaign will really fix that.
 

whatever whatev

Well-known member
Silversvs,

People tend to tell me they're startled whenever they see a motorcycle and I just can't empathize. I think that the more all drivers are conditioned to look for motorcycles the less instances of "I didn't see them" we will have.

Can we implement motorcycle awareness material (commercials, lectures, posters, etc.) as requirements for standard drivers education classes? Is it a part of DUI/speeding classroom material? Can it be?

Thanks for your post. :thumbup

EDIT: I see that 12.3 and 12.4 already touch on these issues. I strongly support them. :)

This isn't going to make any friends, but I gave up on that a long time ago...

If you want to lower fatalities, make it illegal for dealerships to sell sportbikes to people under 21 with no experience. How often do we hear about the guy that "just bought the bike" and binned it doing a wheelie on 9 passing cars on the double yellow while drinking a beer? OK, maybe never. But you get my point.

I've heard that same thing from long-time riders who buy more bike than they can handle, too.
 
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Aluisious

Well-known member
Silversvs,

People tend to tell me they're startled whenever they see a motorcycle and I just can't empathize. I think that the more all drivers are conditioned to look for motorcycles the less instances of "I didn't see them" we will have.
Maybe we can use those traumatizing commericals the Brits run :laughing
 

Roadstergal

Sergeant Jackrum
12.3 Assess both the DMV’s California Driver Handbook and standard traffic school curriculum for information on sharing the road with motorcycles and make additions and revisions as necessary.

I think this is a good area to focus on. I have come across far too many folk who don't know that lane sharing is legal, and folk who give me the regular 'motorcycle came out of nowhere on my way to work!' story. If there's anything that can be done to improve awareness of motorcycle presence and motorcycle legalities, that would help the community.

(Teaching people to adjust their mirrors properly and actually look into them would help, but I don't know if that's beyond the scope of your group.)


Tiered licensing would probably improve things quite a bit.

I'm feeling that more and more.
 

tuxumino

purrfect
wacky idea one: goto bars where bikers frequent and distribute flyers on the dangers of riding under the influence and /or talk to the bikers about those dangers. I'd use MotoOs for this.

wacky idea two: give free properly fitted full face helmets to the 1%ers, if the curisers see the people they are trying to look like wearing fullfaces maybe they will.

wacky idea three: local MotoPD skills days: cone drills in a parking lot with MotoOs as coaches. some kind of skill test at end of day with prizes maybe CG can donate. might be a good way to reach out to the Moto Community at large.
 

Ray

Well-known member
Tiered licensing would probably improve things quite a bit.

+1

Also:

It's been 30 years since the Hurt Report. We know that motorcycle fatalities are up, but I think we need to see some more specific data, is it older guys on their Harleys who have come back to riding after a 20 year break? Is it teenagers who buy an R1 as their first bike? Where are the fatalities occurring, in metro areas? On the highways? Intersections? Is excessive speed a factor? Visibility? Are these single vehicle accidents? Collisions?

We know what the problem is, people are dying on bikes, but we don't really know how or why and until we can get that information, everything else is just guess work.

Time to commission the Hurt Report II
 

GhostRider

Well-known member
Tiered licensing would probably improve things quite a bit.

as an alternative, look at the fatality rate CAUSED by CAR drivers 16-18.

solve BOTH issues with:

Changes to the car licensing:
16-18: Not allowed to drive a car - PERIOD
18-21: CARs allowed with restrictions, e.g no driving w/o an adult after 10PM etc. zero tolerance for alcohol, severe penalties for speeding.

Changes to Motorcycles:
16-18: small motorcycles, scooters & bikes up to 250cc
18-21: 600cc limit with same restrictions on driving time, alcohol and speeding as cars above

21-80: go, kill yourself!!! (aka, turbo busa and lamborghini - pick your weapons)

then, over 80: mandatory re-test every 2 yrs.


the effect: MOST people would start on motorcycles as kids, and become familiar with traffic from "this" point of view.
they will remember this the rest of their driving careers.

Dont give me crapp like: whine, whine, you MUST drive at age 16.
bullshit. you dont!

this works in germany, this can work here, where it's riding season 350 days/year.
(right now several thousand highschool kids in germany ride their mopeds home from school through sleet, snow and ice at -5C. uphill! both ways!!)
 

ST Guy

Well-known member
Hmmm.....

Require proper training before getting a license.

Have a tiered structure that dictates you start out on less powerful bikes and then work your way up to more powerful bikes. (Power to weight ratio?)

Require proper riding gear head to toe.

Then figure out a way to enforce it all without being too intrusive.
 

Human Ills

Well-known member
Can't argue with the bullet items SVS, but I would like to see any awareness campaign strike a balance between targeting riders and drivers.
 

Godsdarling

Smile & Wave for me!
Campaign to make it illegal to sell bikes to those without a license.

More training then 2 days.

Have two hours of video of crashes with preventable injuries if they had been wearing the proper gear, mandatory in Safety Courses.

Good luck. :)
 

reidconti

Well-known member
as an alternative, look at the fatality rate CAUSED by CAR drivers 16-18.

solve BOTH issues with:

Changes to the car licensing:
16-18: Not allowed to drive a car - PERIOD
18-21: CARs allowed with restrictions, e.g no driving w/o an adult after 10PM etc. zero tolerance for alcohol, severe penalties for speeding.

Changes to Motorcycles:
16-18: small motorcycles, scooters & bikes up to 250cc
18-21: 600cc limit with same restrictions on driving time, alcohol and speeding as cars above

21-80: go, kill yourself!!! (aka, turbo busa and lamborghini - pick your weapons)

No. The much bigger problem is experience, not age. While I personally have no problem with the 16 year old driving age, I won't jump on someone who disagrees with that.

Any restriction over 18 shouldn't be allowed. I'm not sure why age discrimination is frowned upon for older folk, but just peachy when used against an 18-21 year old.

Remove the ages from your rules entirely. Change it to be amount of experience. The first step should be much more intensive driver training to get a license to begin with. If you want to go with graduated licensing, great, but base it on number of months/years of experience, not the age of the operator.

I also think new drivers shouldn't be allowed to drive a car that weighs more than about 3000lbs. Ideally less.

Also, change the drinking age. We shouldn't let people learn what it's like to be drunk when they've been driving for years. They should learn how to drink FIRST.
 

vaara

Well-known member
wacky idea two: give free properly fitted full face helmets to the 1%ers, if the curisers see the people they are trying to look like wearing fullfaces maybe they will.

I'll see your generalization (cruiser riders want to emulate 1%ers) and raise you one more: your average 1%er, when presented with a free full-face helmet, would either (a) promptly break your skull with it or (2) turn around and sell it on eBay for beer money.

Re: going into bars, instead of simply pleading with people not to RUI, it might be more effective to have a portable breathalyzer machine on hand. Then let peer pressure do its job.
 

JakesKTM

Well-known member
#1 There needs to be a law that prohibits the sale of a street legal motorcycles to non M1 licensed customers.

1) tiered licensing
2) Mandatory MSF Course - do away with the DMV parking lot shuffle test
3) Dealership incentives for promoting safety awareness such as tax breaks for dealers who sell only to M1 licensed riders, host safety events.
4) A DMV tax on newbie riders that goes to fund safety programs and print awareness stickers
5) A ban on Turbo Hyabusas :p
 

donnamatrix

Well-known member
I'd like to see more community support for riders. Specifically, billboard messages (maybe CHP endorsed?) reminding folks to keep an eye out for us/look twice, or reminding everyone that lane-sharing is LEGAL (and +1 to adding moto-awareness to DMV tests!). I would also like to hear more radio commercials or promo spots on the air, for MSF and rider support like the billboards. Encourage people who are going to ride, to do it right and do it safe, and encourage those who drive to cooperate in keeping us safe.

Maybe educate drivers on how they can work on looking out (ie, "if you see a rider approaching, be sure to give them enough room to get by" or "don't tailgate a motorcyclist as they can brake faster than you can, leave at least x# of feet between you and a rider in front of you" or "in most cases, it's probably safer to yield to a motorcyclist than trying to beat him" ... I know it's asking a lot, but this is a "wishlist" so I'm wishing they yielded to us more than trying to cut us off :teeth

Oh and +1 on tiered licensing based on experience, also limiting to <250cc until 21yo, or for first year of riding in over 21's.

sidenote: At night when I look in my mirrors, it's hard to distinguish one motorcycle headlight from all the other sea of lights. I know in the daytime there are headlight modulators that help with making the single light stand out... is there anything out there specifically for night that helps w/ setting us apart from the other sea of lights? (A colored light would be cool but I know that's not allowed.)

oh and last wish... motorcycle only lanes VROOOOOM! :twofinger
 
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CBR Warrior

Chocolate Face~~
Silversvs,

People tend to tell me they're startled whenever they see a motorcycle and I just can't empathize. I think that the more all drivers are conditioned to look for motorcycles the less instances of "I didn't see them" we will have.

Can we implement motorcycle awareness material (commercials, lectures, posters, etc.) as requirements for standard drivers education classes? Is it a part of DUI/speeding classroom material? Can it be?

Thanks for your post. :thumbup

EDIT: I see that 12.3 and 12.4 already touch on these issues. I strongly support them. :)



I've heard that same thing from long-time riders who buy more bike than they can handle, too.


+1
 
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