Yet another "Mercedes Brake Pedal Failure"--HAHAHA

[AbsolutEnduser]

That time when you have to push your threadmill against a car, and you're one foot-distance away from having no left foot, because it could have been crushed...

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Video-catches-car-crashing-into-Calif-gym-wall-13750793.php

was at his gym, , on March 29 when a red SUV burst through the wall. The car, being driven by an unidentified woman without shoes on, collided with several treadmills
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The woman later told police her brake pedal failed.

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[TheRobSJ]

I hate shit like this. An absolutely irresponsible fool gets into a wreck. Be it DUI, distraction, or 4 floor mats wedged into the pedal. Whatever. It’s their fucking fault. But, they want to sidestep accountability. So they blame the car somehow. Everyone remember how much shit Toyota got over like half a dozen Priuses crashing due to “unintended acceleration” reported by the driver? The story got traction and it became a thing before Toyota finally disproved everything by concluding it was floor mats getting bunched up into the pedal. So Toyota issued a recall to install a hook and loop to keep the mat from creeping forward because the pig of an owner never takes the mats out to vacuum the thing.

So now, that’s a thing people can use as an excuse now. Every time someone says “unintended acceleration” people like me have to go through some ridiculous protocol of measuring and photographing brake pads, brake pedal force and travel, and a bunch of other wastes of time.

 

[AbsolutEnduser]

My first thought: Man, that's a crazy video, that guy was both unfortunate and still lucky!

Second thought: damn.. did she actually have to say this stupid excuse?!?!? But yes indeed, her foot may have slipped and/or a shoe stuck under the pedal--still her fault... to crash into a dang gym/storefront.

 

[Abacinator]

I hate shit like this. An absolutely irresponsible fool gets into a wreck. Be it DUI, distraction, or 4 floor mats wedged into the pedal. Whatever. It’s their fucking fault. But, they want to sidestep accountability. So they blame the car somehow. Everyone remember how much shit Toyota got over like half a dozen Priuses crashing due to “unintended acceleration” reported by the driver? The story got traction and it became a thing before Toyota finally disproved everything by concluding it was floor mats getting bunched up into the pedal. So Toyota issued a recall to install a hook and loop to keep the mat from creeping forward because the pig of an owner never takes the mats out to vacuum the thing.

So now, that’s a thing people can use as an excuse now. Every time someone says “unintended acceleration” people like me have to go through some ridiculous protocol of measuring and photographing brake pads, brake pedal force and travel, and a bunch of other wastes of time.

How many times in your career have you seen an actual, legitimate braking system failure that caused a crash?

 

[UDRider]

Lol I remember that.
When I was at Traffic court someone tried to use it to get out of the speeding ticket. Judge was not impressed. :laughing

 

[TheRobSJ]

How many times in your career have you seen an actual, legitimate braking system failure that caused a crash?

Zero.

All the fools that try the “it was out of control and I couldn’t stop it” bullshit maybe don’t know that just about every modern vehicle now (thanks to the Toyota debacle) has a failsafe system. Because just about everything is electronic throttle (drive by wire) now, the computer can override the driver input from the accelerator pedal and shut the throttle. In the failsafe system, if it detects you’re trying to stop with the brake pedal, it closes the throttle. So even if a floor mat wedges the pedal down, hitting the brake ends the drama. The classic two foot driver who is a best friend to brake shops? They need to actually learn how to drive properly now. And even if the failsafe system wasn’t there, every vehicle except for maybe the Dodge Demon with the skinny front tires has more braking force than acceleration.

How many times in my career have I gone through an overglorified brake inspection that takes a couple hours while being watched by a factory rep because some fool blamed their car for their accident? At least a dozen.

 

[Abacinator]

In 20+ years, the only kinds of failures I've seen have been hoses, and only on cars over 30 years old. And those were cars we never saw unless something went wrong. Maintenance? Pfft. :laughing

Had mutiple customers over the years come in complaining about lack of power. Unbunched teh floor mat from the go pedal and told them to be more careful.

 

[wilit]

I've had 2 legitimate brake failures in my 27 years of driving. First was on a '66 Mustang and was 100% my fault for assembling the drums incorrectly. Got it stopped with the e-brake, no accident. The 2nd was on an '83 Ranger where the caliper piston seal failed on me on my way down from Koit tower. I was able to limp it some 50 miles home with just the e-brake as well, no accident.

 

[Yakoo752]

I had a master cylinder fail on a 2010 Altima. I could still stop but it definitely wasn't road worthy

Must have been a Friday build because it was lemon'd shortly thereafter. (2 short blocks and a long block replacement prior)

 

[Junkie]

I had a leaky wheel cylinder that drained the rear reservoir on my truck. Front brakes only wasn't too bad, though.

It also damaged the master (or I did when I had to press farther than normal).

 

[mototireguy]

Looks like she wanted to get back in the car, back out and umm drive away.

Surprised nobody has asked yet, was she on her cell phone?

 

[KooLaid]

Sooooo a while back I felt something tap my foot, though it was weird and looked quickly around while driving but saw nothing. A few stops later I hit the brakes and nothing happen, the car kept going..... I pressed again and harder and car kept going. So I smash that brake pedal as hard as I could and it felt like I was stepping on a basketball but it just managed to stop in time.

Some how, a full bottle of water some how made it's way under my driver seat, either fell out of the cup holder or rolled up from the back seat and wedged underneath my brake pedal.

 

[mean dad]

Watched a movie when I was a kid where a guy was gonna jump a broken bridge but a piece of guitar got wedged under the gas pedal and he didn't make the jump.
Shit stuck with me my whole fuckin life; I regularly check to make sure nothing is in the way of the pedals. No bridge is safe from my exuberance. :x

 

[frozenduc]

I had two brake failures. Living in the tundra and when about 17 I was driving an old chevy at around 25 below for a couple blocks then the pedal just wouldn't move. The master cylinder froze due to old fluid that absorbed too much water. I managed to coast to a stop fortunately.

Walked home freezing my ass off and I called an uncle a savvy car guy who later came to my rescue. After yelling at my stupidity he warmed the master with a propane torch and all was good. He showed me how to change brake fluid and bleed the whole system. Since that spooky event I change brake fluid in everything every two years.

Parents were out of town one weekend and I borrowed dad's car, a nice '63 Pontiac Grand Prix. Of course I was waay drunk and leaving a party at 2am and the brakes failed a half mile from home. A brake hose popped and I crawled it home then fixed it the next day. Got an attaboy from dad for that.

 

[Butch]

I had two brake failures. Living in the tundra and when about 17 I was driving an old chevy at around 25 below for a couple blocks then the pedal just wouldn't move. The master cylinder froze due to old fluid that absorbed too much water. I managed to coast to a stop fortunately.

Walked home freezing my ass off and I called an uncle a savvy car guy who later came to my rescue. After yelling at my stupidity he warmed the master with a propane torch and all was good. He showed me how to change brake fluid and bleed the whole system. Since that spooky event I change brake fluid in everything every two years.

Parents were out of town one weekend and I borrowed dad's car, a nice '63 Pontiac Grand Prix. Of course I was waay drunk and leaving a party at 2am and the brakes failed a half mile from home. A brake hose popped and I crawled it home then fixed it the next day. Got an attaboy from dad for that.

Whoa. Way cool story bro.

 

[Reli]

Shades of the Audi 5000 "unintended acceleration" bullshit of 35 years ago

People (liars) were claiming they were stomping the brakes yet the car still accelerated. Right. The reality is, if they WERE stomping the brakes, there's no way the car could have accelerated. Any functioning brake system can prevent even WOT throttle from launching a car.

DOT finally got wise and called BS on the Toyota thing: https://www.caranddriver.com/featur...oyotas-unintended-acceleration-scare-feature/

 

[AbsolutEnduser]

That's an interesting link about the Toyota above, and yes, refreshing my memory.

That link also showed me (and I googled "ES350 pedals") That the gas pedal of those Toyotas IS different than the gas pedal on other vehicles (german, Mazda? *-) like this, because those "stick out" from the floor and are less prone to getting hooked onto a floormat.


either way just FYI on my OP, I think the woman in the mercedes was
distracted
Or her foot slipped
Or indeed , like An audi , she was actually accelerating , while claiming it's not her fault


* - on top of all it seems the pedal placement has changed for both Germans and Toyota in the last 10 years... in opposing design directions :wtf :laughing

 

[bojangle]

That video looks like accelerator misapplication. I've seen this a few times. The driver pushed the gas while intending to push the brake.

 

[Kornholio]

I hate shit like this. An absolutely irresponsible fool gets into a wreck. Be it DUI, distraction, or 4 floor mats wedged into the pedal. Whatever. It’s their fucking fault. But, they want to sidestep accountability. So they blame the car somehow. Everyone remember how much shit Toyota got over like half a dozen Priuses crashing due to “unintended acceleration” reported by the driver? The story got traction and it became a thing before Toyota finally disproved everything by concluding it was floor mats getting bunched up into the pedal. So Toyota issued a recall to install a hook and loop to keep the mat from creeping forward because the pig of an owner never takes the mats out to vacuum the thing.

So now, that’s a thing people can use as an excuse now. Every time someone says “unintended acceleration” people like me have to go through some ridiculous protocol of measuring and photographing brake pads, brake pedal force and travel, and a bunch of other wastes of time.

Um, I can't think of a single modern Ford vehicle that I've owned that came stock with floor mats that hadn't had snap post anchors to retain the driver's side floor mat in place. Not saying it's 100% Toyota's fault that the mats slid forward, but I'm also not going to conceded that a modern car company isn't responsible for not anchoring their driver's side floor mats. The possibility that the owners may be pigs has nothing to do with it. Not installing anchors as standard equipment for floor mat equipped vehicles is just careless and cheap.

I had a master cylinder fail on a 2010 Altima. I could still stop but it definitely wasn't road worthy

Must have been a Friday build because it was lemon'd shortly thereafter. (2 short blocks and a long block replacement prior)

I remember all that bitching you did about it on Bookface! :laughing

 

[TheRobSJ]

I remember when cars that came with floor mats had hundreds of little spikes on the underside of the mat, so you really didn’t need anchors to keep them from creeping forward.