Why no new FJRs in the Bay Area?

[ctwo]

I don't know why all 6-speed bikes wouldn't be affected. I'd expect they all have the same 2nd gear pinion.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2016/YAMAHA/FJR1300#recalls

https://www.yamaha-dealers.com/public/web/techpubs/nhtsaPublications.html

I read that they may not be publishing all of the vin recalls at once due to volume and parts availability, but I suppose they may have changed the gear at some point before the recall came out.

The repair is stripping the bike, dropping the engine, splitting the case, installing a new gear cassette (with a forged 2nd gear pinion), then reassemble.

Here's some photos and the repair procedure is on that site somewhere around there...(have to be a member)
https://www.fjrowners.com/forums/1288697-post398.html


https://www.fjrowners.com/forums/1289169-post453.html

 

[Johndicezx9]

Ouch...

 

[dravnx]

Yamaha found a bad batch of gears. They were installed in a particular batch of serial numbers. It's not uncommon to have recalls and service bulletins that only apply to a range of serial numbers.

 

[Johndicezx9]

Yamaha found a bad batch of gears. They were installed in a particular batch of serial numbers. It's not uncommon to have recalls and service bulletins that only apply to a range of serial numbers.

True, but this is over a 4 year manufacturing period since it applies 2016 thru 2020 units, and even includes the automatic trans....

Like one of the posters in the above link stated, "I'd rather have my bike not on the list...." :laughing

I do seem to remember an awfully high number of FZR's (600's, mostly) losing 2nd or 3rd gears in the '90, and even saw it happen to a YZF 1000 I was considering buying.

 

[bergmen]

Very narrow serial number range are impacted by this recall. Much ado about nothing.

True. My 2014 A model is not on the list (but it has the long time bullet-proof 5 speed transmission anyway). No worries here.

I would like to have a fix for the front brake light switch issue though. It doesn't activate until I'm on the front brake for more than a casual stop, not good in traffic.

Dan

 

[ctwo]

True. My 2014 A model is not on the list (but it has the long time bullet-proof 5 speed transmission anyway). No worries here.

I would like to have a fix for the front brake light switch issue though. It doesn't activate until I'm on the front brake for more than a casual stop, not good in traffic.

Dan

There is a recall for that too...

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2014/YAMAHA/FJR1300#recalls

 

[bergmen]

There is a recall for that too...

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2014/YAMAHA/FJR1300#recalls

Yeah I had checked on the NHTSA site with my VIN and mine is not included in the recall. The brake light switch recall says some switches are prone to failure. Mine works but it takes more pressure on the lever than it should to activate.

I drilled tapped the lever for a 1/4-28 stainless steel hex socket set screw to be able to adjust the activation point but that resulted in the cruise control not engaging. There are two separate switches in the module and I could not differentiate. So I had to back out the set screw so the cruise would engage and the result was back to the original issue.

I just make it a point to use the rear brake to light the brake light when I'm in traffic and the front to secure the bike once stopped.

Dan

 

[Hooli]

Unless you want to spend $20k+ there don't seem to be a lot of options left. It's even harder when you're budget is limited to more like $7k.

Bullcorn. :laughing

 

[ctwo]

I rode an FJ1200 with option to buy for $4300. It threw the chain two miles out and I pushed it all the way back to the dealer, collecting the chain on the way and draping it over the exhaust, and then left. Should have gone with a second chance...

 

[Johndicezx9]

Can you still get tires for it?

 

[berth]

I dunno, the FJ1200 is kind of notorious for being pretty beastly, even with the motor.

If I wanted one from the era, I'd look at the Blackbird.

 

[ctwo]

I was so close on a blackbird too, just a few years ago. I lusted when they was new.

 

[WWWobble]

I dunno, the FJ1200 is kind of notorious for being pretty beastly, even with the motor.

If I wanted one from the era, I'd look at the Blackbird.

I was so close on a blackbird too, just a few years ago. I lusted when they was new.

Interesting [to me] that as I recall the early Yam FJ1100s had transmission problems involving 2nd gear, and so now my 2016 FJR sits in the garage with a DO NOT RIDE recall having.... issues with 2nd gear. :laughing

Regarding the Blackbird... I was a VFR faithful, having owned 2 two and was looking to buy a third when a riding friend who owned part of a Honda dealership said to me, "Bob, I'll happily sell you a new VFR, but first you have to take my Blackbird over the weekend and ride it."

I did not buy the 3rd VFR. Unfortunately, I also did not buy the new Blackbird. Big mistake.... I bought something else, but that's another story.

 

[ctwo]

Interesting [to me] that as I recall the early Yam FJ1100s had transmission problems involving 2nd gear, and so now my 2016 FJR sits in the garage with a DO NOT RIDE recall having.... issues with 2nd gear. :laughing.

What is it with Yam and their second gear? My 850 Special started kicking out of 2nd mid-way into the power band. It wasn't a shifting issue, one day it just slipped out under power well after a crisp shift, and it went downhill fast.

Where are you taking yours for the work?

 

[WWWobble]

What is it with Yam and their second gear? My 850 Special started kicking out of 2nd mid-way into the power band. It wasn't a shifting issue, one day it just slipped out under power well after a crisp shift, and it went downhill fast.

Where are you taking yours for the work?

It will go to Berkeley Honda/Yam as soon as the recall parts come in. No idea where I am in line for the actual repair. I'll be waiting for their call, sooner or later.... :laughing

 

[superhypered]

Out of curiosity, what is the best course of action manufacturers can do to ensure a speedy repair in terms of parts availability? Outsourcing labor to increase supply? I remember one time when I sold Hondas, I lost a deal on a CRF250R because of a stop sale recall, and they were prioritizing current owners, and pending deals with money on it. This guy wanted the bike right now and could not wait, plus he was going back and forth between me and GP Sports, so just sucks all around

 

[NoTraffic]

Out of curiosity, what is the best course of action manufacturers can do to ensure a speedy repair in terms of parts availability? Outsourcing labor to increase supply? I remember one time when I sold Hondas, I lost a deal on a CRF250R because of a stop sale recall, and they were prioritizing current owners, and pending deals with money on it. This guy wanted the bike right now and could not wait, plus he was going back and forth between me and GP Sports, so just sucks all around

Yes, or pause production where possible to expedite the production of other parts. Most of the time it's retro-engineering the solution (costs/materials comparison), going through testing/QA, and finding a way to manufacture on a regional/global scale depending on impacted units.

 

[usedtobefast]

Yah, the bikes that seem to fit my needs are becoming dinosaurs. It's all sport bikes, naked, adventurer and super motos these days. I need something with sizable bags, comfort, no bent knees and capable of putting down some serious miles. Unless you want to spend $20k+ there don't seem to be a lot of options left. It's even harder when you're budget is limited to more like $7k. LOL And there ain't *shit* in that class around her; most of the bikes that fit that bill are half way across the country.

Oh well. Patience I suppose. Going to rail all next week anyway.

Have you considered a Suzuki V-Strom 1000? I had zero interest in them for years and years, then I rode one, and wow, great bikes! You can find leftover 1000s (vs the newer and more expensive 1050) for really great prices.

You have to buy the bags but many options, like SHAD or Givi. I can get ~240 miles to a tank of gas, very easy on the knees. Really fun bike on backroads or faster roads, kind of doesn't matter. I was also surprised how well it handled with the 19"/17" tire combo. Very good suspension, awesome front brakes, very light clutch pull, great shifting, super reliable, low maintenance.

 

[bergmen]

It will go to Berkeley Honda/Yam as soon as the recall parts come in. No idea where I am in line for the actual repair. I'll be waiting for their call, sooner or later.... :laughing

If there is a way to do this, I would recommend stripping the bike of fairing, gas tank, seat, saddlebags, etc and trailoring the bike to the dealer. I have heard reports of dinged up parts, mis-assemblies, etc. since most dealers don't have very good accommodations to protect body parts and are not good at remembering where certain fasteners go.

This would be for the transmission repair. Just a thought.

Dan

 

[ctwo]

If there is a way to do this, I would recommend stripping the bike of fairing, gas tank, seat, saddlebags, etc and trailoring the bike to the dealer. I have heard reports of dinged up parts, mis-assemblies, etc. since most dealers don't have very good accommodations to protect body parts and are not good at remembering where certain fasteners go.

This would be for the transmission repair. Just a thought.

Dan

It's like handing your teenage daughter over to a USA swim team coach for lessons...

I'd rather just bring the gear cassette for an exchange. Then I don't need a trailer. Oh, and the brake switch assembly too, please.