Who got goosed by a white SUV this morning?

Slabhappy

Post Whore
Not the SUVs fault. He was splitting and then kind of wandered left to change lanes. Driver was surprised when the width of the lane was reduced. Rider should have CLEARLY signaled he was moving left.
 

ZCrow

Well-known member
Not the SUVs fault. He was splitting and then kind of wandered left to change lanes. Driver was surprised when the width of the lane was reduced. Rider should have CLEARLY signaled he was moving left.

Is this another rider is in the wrong existentially because x,y,z? Sure using his turn signal and riding more decisively would help but the SUV is definitely at fault.
 

msethhunter

Well-known member
Is this another rider is in the wrong existentially because x,y,z? Sure using his turn signal and riding more decisively would help but the SUV is definitely at fault.

Naw. It's a shared fault. And one of the hazards you have to contend with should you decide to split. He was all over the damn place, and it seemed like the SUV was going to try and pinch him out. At which point, her kind of wandered into the SUV. Had the SUV maintained his distance like he should have, the seeming drunkenness of the rider wouldn't have been an issue.
 

Terminal_G

Well-known member
Perhaps a distracted driver (looking at a ship, reading an email, masturbating furiously) looked up and thought, "Shit! A moto!"
 

dowlinginchico

Home Wrecker
Sometimes it is hard to figure out what a bike is going to do. His intentions were VERY unclear. At the same time, the SUV was to impatient to wait and see what the bike was doing. Both wrong is my vote.

I don't think they ever made contact anyway?
 
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NB0tt

Well-known member
Sometimes it is hard to figure out what a bike is going to do. His intentions were VERY unclear. At the same time, the SUV was to impatient to wait and see what the bike was doing. Both wrong is my vote.

I don't think they ever made contact anyway?

Watch the clip again; there is obvious contact....just a lil love tap
 

Rel

Groveland, where's that?
This is why I love it when people involved in traffic collisions have cameras. Makes writing the report so much easier.
 

dowlinginchico

Home Wrecker
I did... a few times. What I see is the bike getting closer, he finally notices the SUV and jerks around a little, then continues to get a tad bit closer for a split second. I dunno though, I could definitely be wrong.

But this is was a semi tricky part of my commute for years. You need to cross over in front of drivers who are DYING to get into that diamond lane. Generally, that is the only thing on their mind. They are switching from being frustrated in traffic to being able to fly down the carpool lane.
 

Rel

Groveland, where's that?
The rider has his spot in the lane. He can move side to side within the lane at his leisure. The SUV accelerated and took away the riders spot in the lane. This the SUV is at fault.

Now, had the rider been sharing the lane with the SUV, and the rider moved left in the lane and made contact with the SUV, the rider would be in fault.

Lastly, because there was contact, and if there was any damage, the rider would have committed 20002 VC (hit and run) even though the rider was not at fault for the collision.
 

dowlinginchico

Home Wrecker
I guess it is a grey area to when a rider is in the lane vs sharing. He was definitely sharing before the incident. If there was a defined distance/law from the line that describes sharing vs "owning", I guess it would be easier. But that is what a LEO's discretion is for. I do agree he was pretty deep in the lane when this happened, but I also feel it was a transition from sharing to owning. SUV definitely threw caution to the wind, or was not paying attention. Either way they were wrong.

I love hearing it from a LEOs POV. Thanks!
 
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