WHERE to RENT a SMALL BIKE for Testing Purpose?

newbiker

Well-known member
Hi guys,

It's hard to make small circles at the DMV testing area on a sports bike. Anyone knows where one can rent a small bike to do the job for testing purpose?

Thanks
 

auntiebling

megalomaniacal troglodyte
Staff member
Save your money and practice. Dmv closes at 5? Parking lots are pretty empty once they close. Lots of daylight hours these days to practice.
 

augustiron

2fast 2live 2young 2die
Save your money and practice. Dmv closes at 5? Parking lots are pretty empty once they close. Lots of daylight hours these days to practice.

Iirc, SFdmv started locking their area after hours.

Also, yes it is harder in a sportbike, but learn to do it on whatever bike you ride. Learn to keep the rpms up and just modulate the clutch for speed control when your right hand is pinned against the tank.
 

Bumpits

Well-known member
Hi guys,

It's hard to make small circles at the DMV testing area on a sports bike. Anyone knows where one can rent a small bike to do the job for testing purpose?

Thanks

can I suggest a few things to make small turns easier on a big bike? Most people try to make small turns by feathering the clutch and using the front brake, which is daunting because you could accidentally pull the clutch in too much, hit the brake hard, lose all forward momentum and drop the bike. The better way is to release the clutch lever, stay in gear, drag the rear brake while using the throttle.
 

flying_hun

Adverse Selection
Why not just sign up from the CMSP course, complete the skills eval that's part of that course, then take the resulting waiver to the DMV and get your endorsement?
 

ScottRNelson

Mr. Dual Sport Rider
The better way is to release the clutch lever, stay in gear, drag the rear brake while using the throttle.
The best way is to hold the throttle steady and control speed with the clutch - while dragging the rear brake.

Try it both ways an you'll see.

The DMV in Pleasanton is available after hours and frequently used by people practicing. Watch the DMV videos that show every part of the riding test. Then practice until you can do it five times in a row while keeping the front wheel near but no over the outer edge of the circle. Make sure you do it both ways.

When I still lived in Pleasanton I offered my XR650L for free multiple times for people wanting to take the riding test, as long as they did it at the local DMV. Nobody ever took me up on that offer.
 

auntiebling

megalomaniacal troglodyte
Staff member
Iirc, SFdmv started locking their area after hours.

Also, yes it is harder in a sportbike, but learn to do it on whatever bike you ride. Learn to keep the rpms up and just modulate the clutch for speed control when your right hand is pinned against the tank.

pretty much everything in SF is fucked and bassackwards. i don't think i've seen chains around me.

many generic parking lots work too, try to turn between the space of 2 cars. works best when facing rows of cars aren't separated by any kind of barrier.
 

Entoptic

Red Power!
Do it on your bike or don’t ride. This seems very hard to do but once you get it you can do it on demand.

Lean to opposite side of turn. No front brake! Use rear and throttle control. Look over your shoulder and don’t put any input on the bar.

I can show you how if you want to travel to San Jose.
 

Whammy

Veteran of Road Racing
Why not just sign up from the CMSP course, complete the skills eval that's part of that course, then take the resulting waiver to the DMV and get your endorsement?

This^^^^
Why because if you are having trouble doing that circle maybe you really arent ready to hit the road just yet.
If anything you'll learn what you don't have command of which will make you better rider, and you don't have to take that annoying test.
 

splat

Well-known member
I see that you're a 2013 member, how long have you actually been riding, how many miles, and what training have you had.
 

Mellowtonin

Old Enough to Know Better
Why not just sign up from the CMSP course, complete the skills eval that's part of that course, then take the resulting waiver to the DMV and get your endorsement?

If you can, try to take a class with Kurt as the instructor.

Those who had "flown with the Hun" knows, he is a very experienced, competent rider. Not to mention having the ability to clearly communicate complex ideas, all of which can offer you much more street survival skills than merely passing the "lollipop" DMV test.
 

motomania2007

TC/MSF/CMSP/ Instructor
If you can't do the DMV test on a sportbike, you shouldn't be riding on the street as that is NOT difficult at all.

I suggest you are missing some fundamentals in motorcycle control that can only be determined in person, with a knowledgeable instructor.

I suggest the CMSP course to fill in your riding fundamental gap AND give you much more info about riding safely besides how to operate the motorcycle AND give you the DMV riding test waiver.
 

Maddevill

KNGKAW
I took my test on a 86 GSXR750. Dabbed all over the place. But I had registered at least 10 bikes, all with this particular DMV clerk, so she said, " I know you know how to ride. Pass."

Mad
 

ScottRNelson

Mr. Dual Sport Rider
If you can't do the DMV test on a sportbike, you shouldn't be riding on the street as that is NOT difficult at all.
Some sportbikes have a really big turning diameter so you're basically at or near full lock all the way around the circle. The 1993 Ducati Superbike that I used to own had a 27-foot turning circle, hard to make it inside the 24-foot DMV circle on something like that.

But yeah, a ZX6R ought to be able to make it around that circle.

My XR650L has a turning diameter of about 13 feet. Way, way easier.
 
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