Where did it go? I think I dropped it somewhere.

[*VillageIdiot*]

It’s kind of like living in darkness. A place where things you “should” know, and “do” know aren’t being communicated naturally. A place where simple things are forgotten. A place where something that felt so natural, now feels very foreign.

Things are moving faster than they should. The mind is racing, filled with inconsequential things like, work, home, and mostly “what the fuck am I doing here?”.

Spending a lot of time thinking “fuck the tire is pushing. I better get off.”. Which is contrasting to “Fuck the tire is pushing, I better get off the bike a little more. I better pick up the bike just a little more. Add just a little more throttle.”

Instead of thinking “Okay there is a ton of room to pass safely.” You think “Well fuck if I bin there I’ll take him out too”. When in fact you could drive a Semi through the opening.

High Side T-hill. Crash one
Low speed, Low side, Sears *rain*, Crash two.

The second was the worst. The first one I was able to get back up and go back out no sweat.

The second one really shook me up and it shouldn’t have.

Advice please?

thanks,

~Jason

 

[DOMS]

Im trying to follow the details and what exactly happened. The few times ive been to the track i try to be fully aware of what the bike is doing as well as my surroundings, and from what you describe your anxiety took the best out of you, as well as your eagerness. Many people i've seen focus too much on going fast, or becoming fast, but the flaw of thinking that way is that the little details that sum the skills required to go fast get overlooked. Ive seen how you ride, and your take on riding, so it comes as a surprise this 2nd occurance...

Sorry to hear man, and hope its not that bad

 

[*VillageIdiot*]

It's mental I think. The second was really nothing. I mean it was wet, tires were cold. What got me was that the front went with no warning none at all. It just went.

So I went back again this past week. I just couldn't put it together AT ALL. It was like learning all over again. Thankfully I didnt put her down a third time. If that had happened I think I would have probably "cashed out". But since I didn't I'm willing to give her another go.

I think I'm the next frong.:laughing :shhh

 

[Dove]

That feeling will subside buddy - just go out there and work on putting down smooth lines (read - smooth, not fast).

A couple of decent sessions and you'll be back to your old fire-breathing, nail-eating, puppy-dog-kissing ways.

You just needed a hug from the collective BARF group to get you going again.

:cool

 

[fawndog]

It's mental I think. The second was really nothing. I mean it was wet, tires were cold. What got me was that the front went with no warning none at all. It just went.

So I went back again this past week. I just couldn't put it together AT ALL. It was like learning all over again. Thankfully I didnt put her down a third time. If that had happened I think I would have probably "cashed out". But since I didn't I'm willing to give her another go.

+1
+1

March 13/14 were baby steps for me. Anything that makes you uncomfortable will be your enemy. I pussy footed around Sears for two whole days untill around the end of day 2, I started to get my nerve back.

ps. A crash in the wet you might discount, like you, I made the mistake of looking for dry traction feedback on a wet track.

 

[*VillageIdiot*]

That feeling will subside buddy - just go out there and work on putting down smooth lines (read - smooth, not fast).

A couple of decent sessions and you'll be back to your old fire-breathing, nail-eating, puppy-dog-kissing ways.

You just needed a hug from the collective BARF group to get you going again.

:cool

:laughing Thanks Sarge.

+1
+1

March 13/14 were baby steps for me. Anything that makes you uncomfortable will be your enemy. I pussy footed around Sears for two whole days untill around the end of day 2, I started to get my nerve back.

ps. A crash in the wet you might discount, like you, I made the mistake of looking for dry traction feedback on a wet track.

Damn Sonny you're all over it bro. Thats about right my brother I couldn't even catch my breath untill the third session. I was Upright, had a death grip on the bars, couldn't get off, it took me almost all day of reminding myself to do stupid shit like "breathe". I mean I know this stuff. I'm glad I'm not the only one.

 

[Dove]

+1
+1

March 13/14 were baby steps for me. Anything that makes you uncomfortable will be your enemy. I pussy footed around Sears for two whole days untill around the end of day 2, I started to get my nerve back.

ps. A crash in the wet you might discount, like you, I made the mistake of looking for dry traction feedback on a wet track.

:x I was attempting to communicate teh same exact thoughts. :teeth

 

[MrCrash]

+1 on both Dove and Sonny

When I lose my mojo, I like to break it down to the fundamentals. Focus on staying loose and using proper body position to help steer the bike and manage traction. Identify reference points in every corner - approach lines, turn-in points, and apexes.

Focus on the basic pieces of the riding puzzle until they become second nature. Once you can fit them together smoothly and seamlessly, you'll be able to take your riding to the next level

 

[fawndog]

:x I was attempting to get some Sgt on Sgt Action :teeth

Well OK... I didn't ask!

 

[MrCrash]

Another bit of advice:

Do not rush anything. Billswim gave me some advice during some swimming lessons once - I think it applies to motorcycling as well. He told me the moment my swimming form started to feel sloppy, he said I should stop swimming, and do a specific drill that would correct my problems. Ignoring it will only drill those bad habits deeper into my technique.

Same thing applies for motorcycle riding. Riders who are fine in one group step up to the next group and pick up the pace. They start rushing corners in an attempt to get faster, sacrificing lines and form. Don't rush, practice the fundmentals, and it'll come together

 

[*VillageIdiot*]

As always....thanks





































Master Yoda :shhh

 

[Dove]

Well OK... I didn't ask!

:green :cry :laughing

 

[*VillageIdiot*]

Well OK... I didn't ask!

You know it usually goes better with three sweetness. I'm sure we could find some room to practice "DRILL" for the pretty boys

 

[Dove]

You know it usually goes better with three sweetness. I'm sure we could find some room to practice "DRILL" for the pretty boys

Left, left, your left, right, left...stroke? :barf

 

[*VillageIdiot*]

Left, left, your left, right, left stroke? :barf

thats too passive I was thinking of something a little more.......ummm Motivated. :laughing

 

[Dove]

:later

 

[Holeshot]

Jason, Sonny said it right about the rain...rain crashes are just over exuberance, under-experience. Don't sweat that one too much.

Whenever I start to get all goofed up in the head, I go back an anchor strategy...I think of something I'm really good at and look for my confidence in it (mentally). That will calm me enough to regain focus. then as Mike said, it's good to work on one or two specific skill sets. Drills.

 

[*VillageIdiot*]

Jason, Sonny said it right about the rain...rain crashes are just over exuberance, under-experience. Don't sweat that one too much.

Whenever I start to get all goofed up in the head, I go back an anchor strategy...I think of something I'm really good at and look for my confidence in it (mentally). That will calm me enough to regain focus. then as Mike said, it's good to work on one or two specific skill sets. Drills.

Awesome tip Berto.....:thumbup,

y'all are awesome.

 

[LongGoneJohn]

You said it yourself Jason. The first wreck was no big deal, you got back up and were right back at it -- and you were, I saw it with the Woody'd shift lever and the broken collar bone at a solid B pace.

The second crash, while you say was no big deal, is when you "lost it." Why? The second crash was REALLY nothing, cold tires and raining, who cares? So you got excited that it might be dry for that one second, and who wouldn't on their first day at Sears when they just paid $220?

So frankly, get over it! You got over the bad wreck, your second wreck was nothing... so you really have nothing to go over!

On the last track day you said yourself you were starting to feel it again, you started breathing, you stopped thinking and were just doing -- well, go back to that.

Pick something small, even breathing again, and focus on IT -- that will help you stop thinking about all the other stuff that was racing through your mind and keep your head in the game. Then next session, pick something else to focus on -- like lines. Then next, upper body positioning, etc. Halfwya through the day you won'tbe thinking about wrecking and being scared or whatever, you'll be thinking about "ok, make sure you point, lean in, tits on tank, breath" etc.

Or.. you can do what I do. Talk to yourself while trying to do something your mind doesn't want you to do, or when you feel the pucker factor pick up.

Of course I type all this like I actually know, when in reality, I'm just talking out of my ass.

 

[*VillageIdiot*]

:wow, way to kick me in the ass jp......:thumbup. probably just what I needed :cool