Monkey_Boy
K@TT Instructor
Wrong Way said:... . But choosing to lug it and then gradually push the speeds of the bike worked better than waiting for the apex to end, and then upshift.
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Wrong Way said:... . But choosing to lug it and then gradually push the speeds of the bike worked better than waiting for the apex to end, and then upshift.
Wrong Way said:I have found that high RPM's on the track can, at times, cause me to go slower around the turns. The redline acts as a ceiling to my acceleration until I can get another upshift. An upshift might not be the smoothest after noticing I have hit the ceiling. Planning ahead makes the difference here.
tzrider said:Alternatively, try a GP shift pattern. Makes it pretty easy to snatch an upshift while you're leaned over. The occasions on which you'd *downshift* while leaned over are few.
I don't quite understand the last statement above. Are you saying you believe it takes more traction to upshift near peak power? If so, more about that below...Wrong Way said:While in a turn, if there is available traction for going a bit faster, there should be traction for an upshift also. What about catching that upshift near peak horsepower versus doing it at a slightly lower RPM, where the required amount of traction would be a little less?
Wrong Way said:If you are at redline, won’t an upshift put you right at peak horsepower? This is one of my concerns about upshifting in turns, not having the available traction if the bike is screaming and will ooze uncontrollable horsepower to the rear wheel.
Wrong Way said:If I enter the turn, the very next lap, in the next higher gear, my time will suffer even more. If I stick it out, lap after lap, I may gradually build speed in that turn. There may be potential to pick up enough speed to be at the appropriate RPM for the exit, even though I am in a higher gear.
tzrider said:You can get away with poor throttle control if you're in a higher gear but then you're in the wrong gear for the drive.
Monkey_Boy said:Experienced liter bike riders will tell you it is better to be near red line on corner exit, and to require an upshift once you're more upright. Why? Because if you do spin up the rear, the rev limiter will keep the tire from getting away from you. It helps reduce the risk of a high side.
It makes sense when you think it over a bit.
A liter bike is 99% about throttle control, as you pointed out.
Wrong Way said:Does the ZX10 have a rev limiter?