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thedub
Octane Socks
Not necessary. No one would ever sue for crashing on the track......
Bassem
Well-known member
Pretty sure he was talking about the trailer/hauler not the bikes themselves
thedub
Octane Socks
OP offered pit duties. I'm pretty sure Ernie was talking about forgetting to tighten a motorcycle axle nut leading to a crash.
Either way, property damage in the act of transporting, or bodily harm caused by negligent pit duties could both result in liability for OP.
afm199
Well-known member
Yup.
It's sad as can be. Ten years ago we didn't ask questions like this. Now the assumption is becoming that some asshole will sue at some point.
sniper1rfa
Well-known member
What about just transportation? You could probably do OK rolling around the bay, or making a central drop-off location, and dragging bikes for folks without easy transportation options. I know I'd rather sleep at home and just drive up from my house, but dragging the bikes adds like an hour to the exercise and gets excessive in the morning.
Probably won't get the racers, but I bet you could get a lot of casual riders like me. If it was like $40-50 that would be a no-brainer for me.
Probably won't get the racers, but I bet you could get a lot of casual riders like me. If it was like $40-50 that would be a no-brainer for me.
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sckego
doesn't like crashing
Asshole?
If someone crashes on track because they person who was being paid to work on their bike neglected to tighten an axle nut or similar, that is pretty grossly negligent and a lawsuit seems like it would be perfectly justified -- far more so than some of the other cases we've seen recently, like the guy who ran off track at Laguna due to his own shitty riding, or the gal who was on a bike that crashed, then got hit by another crashing bike, and decided to sue everyone.
Situations like the one you described are the EXACT reason a provider of a service like that should carry liability insurance.
afm199
Well-known member
Yup. And there have been successful suits over this issue.
295566
Numbers McGee
:wtf
Not sure, are you agreeing with him, or not? I concur, though, not tightening an axle nut, properly bleeding brakes, misadjusted chain, etc that leads to a crash on track, most certainly is cause for liability and therefore litigation.
Are you suggesting that if you're paying someone to maintain a motorcycle, but they do a crappy job that later causes a failure and damages property and possibly personal injuries, that a lawsuit isn't justified?
afm199
Well-known member
Not at all. I recall an AFM incident years ago when a rebuilt race motor blew up in the first race. The builder lost the suit.
As to "Paying someone to maintain" that's a catchall. If I pay someone at the track to change a wheel and they leave an axlenut off, yeah, that's on them.
If I pay someone at the track to maintain my bike at the track, and the motor blows up, that's not on them. That's on someone else. Ditto if the shock fails. Which I think covers your example and phraseology (A crappy job). No, crappy jobs don't get free rein. Yes, mistakes made by others don't attach to someone new. As to the lawsuit, there are already far too many lawsuits and I don't see them as productive. I see them as sport killers. They are necessary at times.
RWMaverick
Well-known member
This is an awesome idea, I'm currently living the no-car life and my track bike isn't street legal. Would you provide a few tiers in case people are only interested in a ride, not the pit service? Just out of curiosity