Thunderhill Walk Through by Michael Earnest
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Yody
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HOTRODHAIRY
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That would be two track tests of the Tilt suit at least:laughing.The question is do you want to run 2:10's comfortably or on your abilities edge?I like running around 2:10-12 and having fun.I'm not racing and I like feeling in control of my bike.If I get down to 2:05's that would be great.But if not,I don't really care.Trackdays are for fun.I can't wait to hit T-hill in August with new pavement.Two days in a row
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Toe
Used to be cool...
I dont believe that you need to crash to learn, that makes no sense...But would I have more fun? well, its not so much about the fun factor between 2:10's and 2:15's, its the feeling of accomplishment and gratification of reaching my goals.
my "whatever it takes" mentality is more of mental game I play with myself, forcing myself to try new lines and whatnot.
That would be two track tests of the Tilt suit at least:laughing.The question is do you want to run 2:10's comfortably or on your abilities edge?I like running around 2:10-12 and having fun.I'm not racing and I like feeling in control of my bike.If I get down to 2:05's that would be great.But if not,I don't really care.Trackdays are for fun.I can't wait to hit T-hill in August with new pavement.Two days in a row
when I did my best of a 2:13, I didnt once feel out of control or sketchy and I could tell where I could go faster and brake later. I want to progress as much as possible while still having fun. Im not expecting to drop 2 or 3 seconds every trackday...it just wont happen, but I want to know that each time I go out there, Im getting smoother and faster, otherwise, whats the point.
Yody
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Thats why I said you will be able to run 2:10's consistently, because I believe you possess the skills.
That in itself was not my point. My point was making your only goal a "lap time" and doing "whatever it takes" to achieve that goal. This is only my opinion and I'm not necessarily saying its the only way, however I believe that you need to keep trackdays about fun. I don't want to preach(although you know I could :teeth) but the only people I know who "need" to lower their laptimes are people racing AFM or some other organization. Getting faster and faster is of course ultimately one of the goals. But ask yourself this question. If there was some magical curse on you that said you would never get faster than 2:10 would you still do trackdays? Or would you just say screw it? I know questioning like that could be debatable and I'm probably putting too much on it and being all anal etc but would you still ride if you had to accept the fact that you weren't going to get any faster? What other things would you find enjoyable about being on the track? I ask you these things because at one point you'll likely either stop getting faster and plateau, or crash trying to get faster. OR take your time, enjoy just riding on the track and get faster gradually as it comes. Are you trying to be a overnight wonder or do you plan on doing track riding for the next 10 years? If its the latter then I suggest you might come up with some kind of "long term goal" which does not involve a laptime. It won't always be this exciting dropping 3-5 seconds each few days out.
It just scares me as somebody who has gone down that road to see someone else about to cast off on that adventure. Just because I did things a certain way obviously doesn't mean you will. But I think its a common pattern and is easily recognizable. If anything just take the chance to reflect on what I'm saying. If its not for you that's okay but first give yourself the chance to maybe understand where I'm coming from. Its not meant to be an attack of any kind. Just some insight :thumbup
If anything you should take Holeshot up on his offer. The one thing you do have going for you is your network of friends. You have some really good riders that are willing to help you. You're in good hands
That in itself was not my point. My point was making your only goal a "lap time" and doing "whatever it takes" to achieve that goal. This is only my opinion and I'm not necessarily saying its the only way, however I believe that you need to keep trackdays about fun. I don't want to preach(although you know I could :teeth) but the only people I know who "need" to lower their laptimes are people racing AFM or some other organization. Getting faster and faster is of course ultimately one of the goals. But ask yourself this question. If there was some magical curse on you that said you would never get faster than 2:10 would you still do trackdays? Or would you just say screw it? I know questioning like that could be debatable and I'm probably putting too much on it and being all anal etc but would you still ride if you had to accept the fact that you weren't going to get any faster? What other things would you find enjoyable about being on the track? I ask you these things because at one point you'll likely either stop getting faster and plateau, or crash trying to get faster. OR take your time, enjoy just riding on the track and get faster gradually as it comes. Are you trying to be a overnight wonder or do you plan on doing track riding for the next 10 years? If its the latter then I suggest you might come up with some kind of "long term goal" which does not involve a laptime. It won't always be this exciting dropping 3-5 seconds each few days out.
It just scares me as somebody who has gone down that road to see someone else about to cast off on that adventure. Just because I did things a certain way obviously doesn't mean you will. But I think its a common pattern and is easily recognizable. If anything just take the chance to reflect on what I'm saying. If its not for you that's okay but first give yourself the chance to maybe understand where I'm coming from. Its not meant to be an attack of any kind. Just some insight :thumbup
If anything you should take Holeshot up on his offer. The one thing you do have going for you is your network of friends. You have some really good riders that are willing to help you. You're in good hands
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Toe
Used to be cool...
Cody I totally understand what you mean.
track days for me aren't just about lap times, its not my only focus, yet I use it at a tool for improvement, lets me know my brake markers, body positioning, and lines can all be improved.
I plan on riding track as long as I can, one day id like to sign up for NRS and get my feet wet in the AFM. I know its a long road ahead and im bound to face thousands of bumps in the road, but I must keep myself motivated.
I wont say I wont ever do this or that, because who knows, but im not going to limit myself by saying "I can't do it"
This adventure will be a long one :thumbup
Toe
Used to be cool...
Zoom Zoom :teeth :banana
Daredevil
Modest Max
dude!
you said you couldn't make the 12th? oh wait, work huh
too bad, im there tues wed and thurs. wish i could make it out there with you