thoughts on this website?

[killah_tofu]

http://www.rockthegear.org/

Just wanted to see what everyone had to say about Britney Morrows new website/venture (loosely based on all gear all the time credo).

 

[Ant]

Anything that promotes safety is a good thing imho.

 

[islemann]

I read Brittany's story a couple of years ago. I think its terrific that she has managed to not only keep a very positive outlook about her permanent injuries - she's turned a very ugly situation into a great tool to help the newer / less experienced riders understand why it is so critical to be ATGATT.

Good for her, good for motorcycling in general.

 

[clutchslip]

Looks pretty good. This is a good hook-up with 1Rider, here. Try to tie things together with Budman's efforts.

 

[RhythmRider]

I'm indifferent. The site looks pretty good but there just isn't enough content. I guess that'll come with time, though. The reviews section was interesting, though! I saw a MotoGP jacket and SP2 gloves which was my exact gear from 2007, all of which I wore for a long time and finally crash tested, and the reviews were spot on with my opinion. If the reviews section grows to include a lot more gear, I think it could be really useful in selecting stuff that I haven't used before. I just wish I could leave comments on the reviews.

 

[Climber]

You have to admire somebody who has such a horrific experience and instead of just going into a cycle of feeling sorry for themself sets out to have their experience make a difference on others lives! :thumbup

One thing I'd do with the site is to tastefully incorporate the consequences of not wearing gear into their site header. Face it, the most effective way to get the point across with this subject is to put the consequences right in front of people. Otherwise it's 'just another site' with no real impact.

Just my :2cents

 

[killah_tofu]

Looks pretty good. This is a good hook-up with 1Rider, here. Try to tie things together with Budman's efforts.

just pm'd a mod! :thumbup

 

[clutchslip]

just pm'd a mod! :thumbup

PM the Budman. He'll make it happen. There might be room to add her story and the site to the traveling goofball/safety show. (B-man?)

 

[Burning1]

I'm indifferent. The site looks pretty good but there just isn't enough content. I guess that'll come with time, though.

Agreed. I looked at the site and thought it was pretty, but didn't see anything to draw me in.

 

[Blind_Io]

Start a group on Facebook as well as MySpace. You have a better chance of reaching people in the larger Facebook community.

when you do start it, post it up and I'll join.

 

[Entoptic]

Anything that promotes safety is a good thing regardless of where or whom it comes from.

Poor britney.

Neil Cotter was not wearing proper leg protection

 

[Blind_Io]

Someone should email them about 1Rider, join forces!

 

[Gixxergirl1000]

I'm already using Britney's pic and her description of the accident as part of the East Bay 1Rider display. It really has quite an impact on the "jeans n jacket" riders, and already has put one girl into full leathers, including boots.

I think it's awesome that she took such a horrific, life-altering event in her life, and is using that to do everything she can to help protect others from the same fate.

 

[littlebeast]

okay - i'll be a dick tonight. why is it that people who are concerned about this sort of thing and want to learn from it (and usually seem least likely to need the lesson), and want others to learn from it are lined up on one side of the fence, and the ones who turn a blind eye and ear (and seem to need the message the most) are lined up on the other? and never the twain shall meet.

everyone wants their lesson to matter. does it? can it?

sorry. :|

 

[Blind_Io]

okay - i'll be a dick tonight. why is it that people who are concerned about this sort of thing and want to learn from it (and usually seem least likely to need the lesson), and want others to learn from it are lined up on one side of the fence, and the ones who turn a blind eye and ear (and seem to need the message the most) are lined up on the other? and never the twain shall meet.

everyone wants their lesson to matter. does it? can it?

sorry. :|

Wow, usually I'm the cynic.

I honestly think that many of the jeans and sneakers riders have not thought about it seriously, if at all.

Personal anecdote:
A guy moved into my building several months ago, I saw a new bike in the carport so I went over to say "hi." I find out that he has no motorcycle license (and thus probably no insurance), only a jacket and a crashed helmet, and never took MSF. After a very serious talk with him, he signed up for MSF, got his M1, got a new lid and some proper gear. He still rides in jeans and sneakers as far as I know, but it's a big improvement. At least he came to me and asked if I had some old gloves he could borrow for a while.

Yes, you can make a difference. 1Rider has already gotten riders into full gear and I've spoken to several riders about the importance of gear and seen results. The message is much louder coming from another rider instead of someone who has never ridden and shrieks about motorcycles being "organ donor cycles." We can talk about what gear we like and why, what is a good deal and where to go to find it.

 

[Gixxergirl1000]

okay - i'll be a dick tonight. why is it that people who are concerned about this sort of thing and want to learn from it (and usually seem least likely to need the lesson), and want others to learn from it are lined up on one side of the fence, and the ones who turn a blind eye and ear (and seem to need the message the most) are lined up on the other? and never the twain shall meet.

everyone wants their lesson to matter. does it? can it?

sorry. :|

You aren't going to get through to everyone... but since I've had people coming BACK to the 1Rider booth, specifically to show me they got leathers and boots, well, we CAN reach SOME of the people who need us.
Everyone has their own way of looking at things. One of the things I've seen is that there is a learning curve... as they get better, and start spending time with "better" (ie: more experienced/faster/adjective of your choice here) riders, who generally wear gear, they start seeing a need for it. Either they're TOLD to get gear if they want to continue riding with the "better" riders, or they see someone crash, or they start thinking about how much faster they're riding than they were.
Or, worst case scenario, they crash, and discover for themselves why gear matters.
Regardless, I, for one, feel compelled to do what I can to try to prevent crashing/maiming/death.

 

[Kfxrider90]

I'll be honest when I'm going less than 5 miles I'm a jean and jacket and sneaker or boot and helmetrider. When I know I'm going for a "ride" full A* suit. I love that thing.

At the same time I dont have as many threats as you "bay" riders have though de to all the idiot drivers.

 

[littlebeast]

You aren't going to get through to everyone... but since I've had people coming BACK to the 1Rider booth, specifically to show me they got leathers and boots, well, we CAN reach SOME of the people who need us.
Everyone has their own way of looking at things. One of the things I've seen is that there is a learning curve... as they get better, and start spending time with "better" (ie: more experienced/faster/adjective of your choice here) riders, who generally wear gear, they start seeing a need for it. Either they're TOLD to get gear if they want to continue riding with the "better" riders, or they see someone crash, or they start thinking about how much faster they're riding than they were.
Or, worst case scenario, they crash, and discover for themselves why gear matters.
Regardless, I, for one, feel compelled to do what I can to try to prevent crashing/maiming/death.

i look at it a little like pulling over to try and grab a dog running along the freeway. you'll either be a hero, and feel great, or have a front row seat to a horrific scene. i admire anyone who takes it on. seriously. (ask me about the mama duck and her babies sometime.)

 

[Blind_Io]

What about the mama duck and her babies?

 

[mosquito]

OP, after just a few minutes, it looks OK. Not quite *OMG You Gotta See This!*, but not *EWWW forgettabout it* either. All-in-all, I'd say a good start.

I gotta wonder about these sorts of things though:

- multiple hostings (ytimg, photobucket, youtube ...) and
- I'm getting this twice per page: http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/robots.txt#INITIAL

okay - i'll be a dick tonight. why is it that people who are concerned about this sort of thing and want to learn from it (and usually seem least likely to need the lesson), and want others to learn from it are lined up on one side of the fence, and the ones who turn a blind eye and ear (and seem to need the message the most) are lined up on the other? and never the twain shall meet.

everyone wants their lesson to matter. does it? can it?

sorry. :|

I'm not getting what you're being dicky about. Seems like a straightforward question to me.

I think there are several camps on things like this. Some are butthurt 'cause X happened to them or someone they know and they assault those who don't do what the some want. Others are butthurt 'cause somebody told them "You can't do this" and so they're adamant that 'No one's gonna tell me what to do.' With cases like both of those the real subject isn't the content, it's the personal agenda that winds up being offensive 'cause no one wants someone else's agenda shoved down their throats.

(Or, too, we could go on ad infinitum about other reasons why some want their own perspective validated...)

Others kinda go, "Well, yeah, here's some info if you're interested." If someone wants it they take it, if not they just go on to something else. This camp still gets to believe that their effort is successful because their goal of giving information is getting met. They're not trying to change someone's mind or trying to shift responsibilities around.

Given how many people seem to work, I think the first two will never work well (and they're really the same thing) and the third always has a decent chance of success.

:tuppence


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I'll be honest when I'm going less than 5 miles I'm a jean and jacket and sneaker or boot and helmetrider. When I know I'm going for a "ride" full A* suit. I love that thing.

At the same time I dont have as many threats as you "bay" riders have though de to all the idiot drivers.

Didja see my posts in this thread? I'm not weak of mind or body but compared to two tons of automobile I'm freakin' fragile. (I had posts #41 & then #112 & several following that.)

:halfpenny

... At least he came to me and asked if I had some old gloves he could borrow for a while. ...

That's a big score in my book, Blind. Now he's concerned and thinking. :thumbup

:farthing