The Unrideables 1&2

NSR500

すけべ
Reminiscing until our next Moto GP and watching The Unrideables on Amazon Prime. A pretty good documentary with the crazy 500's when America and Australia ruled the World.
Their post race pressers were nuts and definitely not the corporate polished riders and statements of today. So crazy.
Really makes you wonder if Wayne never got hurt would Yamaha not had suffered the drought they did until 2004.
If Kevin didn't retire would Suzuki have pulled another 500 GP Championship?
 

matty

Well-known member
I think these might be my favorite moto watch, I've seen these like 3 times. Good stuff.
 

motomania2007

TC/MSF/CMSP/ Instructor
Reminiscing until our next Moto GP and watching The Unrideables on Amazon Prime. A pretty good documentary with the crazy 500's when America and Australia ruled the World.
Their post race pressers were nuts and definitely not the corporate polished riders and statements of today. So crazy.
Really makes you wonder if Wayne never got hurt would Yamaha not had suffered the drought they did until 2004.
If Kevin didn't retire would Suzuki have pulled another 500 GP Championship?

Suzuki did win 2000 500 gp championship with Kenny Roberts Jr
 

NSR500

すけべ
Watched it yesterday.
I don't understand this pass. How was schwantz able to come out of there faster than rainey, after stomping on the brakes? Would love to see an overhead view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4e7eeb8qb4

Didn't Wayne say he passed Kevin too early and cooked his approach?
Even though Wayne's lean angle looks fast, I think Kevin is deceptively fast upright. Kinda like what we see with Alex Rins.
Alex doesn't elbow drag like Pol or WinOrBin, but goes equally fast if not faster.
 

Johndicezx9

Rolls with it...
Why does everybody forget Lucchinelli and Uncini, they won the championships in 1981 and 1982, between Roberts' last and Spencer's first... on Suzukis....
 

Maddevill

KNGKAW
Just watched Part 1. Great stuff. I started following GP in 1982 with King Kenny and Mamola. Brings back memories. I think Rossi said that the 500s were " funny" to ride.

Mad
 

ddold

Well-known member
Watched it yesterday.
I don't understand this pass. How was schwantz able to come out of there faster than rainey, after stomping on the brakes? Would love to see an overhead view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4e7eeb8qb4

While working for the old version of CityBike, I interviewed both Rainey and Schwantz on separate occassions, and asked them both about that pass.

Rainey knew Schwantz was coming but thought he had a 50/50 shot at actually getting the pass done without running straight on. He intentionally gave him the room to try to make the pass. He did say it was a bit hairy when he saw how out of shape the RGV was.

Schwantz was surprised a bit when Rainey moved over and started braking as it was earlier than he'd done the rest of the race, but they'd been riding together so long at that point he felt like he could trust Rainey not to slam the door on him. He also knew that was his one shot at the win as he'd never get past Rainey once they got on to the infield sections. I'll be super gauche and quote my own article:

No incident more epitomizes their rivalry and mutual respect than one of Schwantz’s passes at Hockenheim. Running behind Rainey going into the corner, Schwantz was caught off guard when Rainey deviated from the pattern he had set in the previous laps and began braking early. Schwantz was forced to take evasive action, pulling quickly to the inside of Rainey before he could even begin to try and brake. The result was a spectacular pass with Schwantz sliding past into the lead, rear wheel waving in the air as the front end collapsed and skidded under the force of the sudden deceleration. “I trusted Wayne and he was the only guy I would have put myself in some of those situation with,” Schwantz said. “When I passed him at Hockenheim, if he hadn’t moved over to give me a bit of space, we both could have been laying in the dust. And when he gave me space, he gave me the race, and I think there was a bit of intimidation in the fact that he couldn’t believe Id even thought about trying. He was the only guy I felt 100% safe with.”

There was one other quote from Schwantz that night that really set both him and Rainey apart from everyone else as true sportsmen:

“I don’t think I would have been the rider that I was, and I don’t think he would have been the rider he was, without each other,” says Schwantz. “The reason I rode in 1994 was because I was world champion, not because I wanted to, and that’s because Wayne wasn’t there.”
 

budman

General Menace
Staff member
Why does everybody forget Lucchinelli and Uncini, they won the championships in 1981 and 1982, between Roberts' last and Spencer's first... on Suzukis....

Hey... one remembers. :p

Amazing men on amazingly hard to ride awesome bikes. :hail
 

ddold

Well-known member
Well, I wouldn't mind reading the whole thing if you have it. And thanks for posting what you did.

I used to have it online but I threw it into a PDF when I took the old site down. Most of them are not terribly interesting, but I didn't know what the hell I was doing at the time.
 

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