The Highwaymen - Guns

Hoho

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Just finished watching the movie on Netflix, best part was when the lead, Kevin Costner aka Frank Hamer, walks into a gun store and starts pointing at all sorts of weapons and ammo.... from revolvers, to full auto Thompson submachine guns...

Then goes “that’ll do it”... the store owner goes “which one?” ... “all of it”... :laughing

Simpler times... then again, this was the ‘40s. :laughing
 
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ejv

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Was watching it last night.

Took place January to May 1934. NFA was enacted June 1934.
Haven't finished it yet but it seems to be a decent movie.
 
Was watching it last night.

Took place January to May 1934. NFA was enacted June 1934.
Haven't finished it yet but it seems to be a decent movie.

Wasn't the NFA, in part, created because of Bonnie and Clyde and other outlaws had firearms that were outgunning the Police?
 

mototireguy

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Old time bonafide bargain!

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berth

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I think there was a blurb in IMDB that when Frank Hamer went home after the manhunt, he kept all of the firearms.
 

Hoho

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I think there was a blurb in IMDB that when Frank Hamer went home after the manhunt, he kept all of the firearms.

Who wouldn’t? :laughing I’d love to have a Thompson SMG like that at home.. and those lever action weapons.. mmm...
 

berth

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An interesting anecdote regarding the Thompson, NFA, and the recent court ruling about magazines, was how back in the day some states didn't ban automatic weapons, rather, they banned them for use in crimes. Much like the modern "Use a gun, go to jail." The legislatures even had call outs about how the legislation specifically didn't include folks who just owned them for their own personal use.

Visions of a rancher pulling a Thompson out of the back of his pickup to take aim on a wayward coyote come to mind.
 

Hoho

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A coworker got tricked into turning in a Thompson semi into surrendering one he inherited from his dad when his dad passed. He should have talked to me first. Dang. What a waste.

Same coworker GAVE me his dad’s Colt Detective Special Snubnose. All I had to was pay for the DROS. :teeth
 

ejv

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Wasn't the NFA, in part, created because of Bonnie and Clyde and other outlaws had firearms that were outgunning the Police?

I've heard it was spurred by organized crime to include groups like Bonnie and Clyde. I haven't researched it but it seems reasonable.
 

enki

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Actually, the Remington Model 11 in riot gun form was more popular than the Thompson for the serious motor outlaws of the 1930s, of which Bonny and Clyde were not. I’m talking Dillinger, Charles Arthur Floyd and my favorite, the Barker-Karpis gang. B&C did carry some BARs in .30-06, of course, and even tried to sell some to Alvin Karpis, who thought the over-penetration was a problem. He called B&C “Texas screwballs.”
Karpis also liked a 1911 with an extended, 20 round mag.
The .357 Magnum and the .38 Super were both developed to an extent because police sought to defeat bullet resistant armor that outlaws were dallying with. The .357 won out, but the .38 Super continues to have a strong following among Mexican outlaws to this day, and is subject matter for many fine corridos.
“The Alvin Karpis Story,” by the way, is a good read. He later taught Charles Manson how to play guitar whie in Alcatraz. Thought Manson was a bit of a punk, as mentioned in his next book. On The Rock.”
 

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