The future looks grim :(

mlm

Contrarian
Former GM Exec Envision a Grim Future of Self-Driving Cars
https://www.fastcodesign.com/90151138/former-gm-exec-envisions-a-grim-future-of-self-driving-cars

Here is the article it's referring to
http://www.autonews.com/article/201...1109944/bob-lutz:-kiss-the-good-times-goodbye

...The vehicles, however, will no longer be driven by humans because in 15 to 20 years — at the latest — human-driven vehicles will be legislated off the highways.

The tipping point will come when 20 to 30 percent of vehicles are fully autonomous. Countries will look at the accident statistics and figure out that human drivers are causing 99.9 percent of the accidents.

Of course, there will be a transition period. Everyone will have five years to get their car off the road or sell it for scrap or trade it on a module...

Scary thing about this is the fact we all know it's probably true. To make matters more interesting, there is already a trend for urban millennials to be less likely than prior generations to own a car and even go without acquiring a license.
http://www.umich.edu/~umtriswt/PDF/UMTRI-2016-4_Abstract_English.pdf

The good old days are here!
 

auntiebling

megalomaniacal troglodyte
Staff member
I've been saying the same thing but I think the insurance companies will be behind it. Premiums for.driving your own car will be prohibitive.

Why do you need insurance for an autonomous vehicle dystopia? Because lawmakers will not.let their business wither and die of course! No-risk mandatory profit structure
 

mlm

Contrarian
Huge economic shift would accompany this, but the deepest pockets will simply switch to supporting the "transportation network". Just think of all the non-essential, emotionally driven aspects of the vehicle industry and these will need to adapt. Even motorsports are at risk because they have historically been tied into the consumer market for advertising support.

The question I see is not IF it will happen, but when and how it will happen. The biggest value is traffic dense areas, so I'd expect to see freeways in urban areas the first to start switching over. Probably something like express lanes for smart cars.
 

UDRider

FLCL?
Good. More driverless cars, the better for us motorcyclists I say.

If none driverless cars be legislated away what do you think will happen to motos?

Anyway. I don't think this will happen in next 15-20 years. It might take that long for technology to mature for driverless cars to become more then just prototype thing for companies.
 

rsrider

47% parasite 53% ahole
I've been saying the same thing but I think the insurance companies will be behind it. Premiums for.driving your own car will be prohibitive.

Why do you need insurance for an autonomous vehicle dystopia? Because lawmakers will not.let their business wither and die of course! No-risk mandatory profit structure

IF there is insurance, it will be part of your payment to rent the "pod" for where ever you're going. Personal pods sound reasonable, but most people will be so poor that they will use public transportation, which will be subsidized by the corps who are providing personalized "pod" use to the ever shrinking professional class. The elite, of course, will do whatever the fuck they want, much like they do now and have since the beginning.
 

budman

General Menace
Staff member
For sure when that happens on road motos will be gone.

15-20 is hard to believe, but it likely will happen.

The difficult part will be farms, ranchers isolated areas.
I could see it for metropolitan areas perhaps. Everywhere is going to be longer. These are the best of times.
 

Toast

Well-known member
The difficult part will be farms, ranchers isolated areas.
I could see it for metropolitan areas perhaps. Everywhere is going to be longer. These are the best of times.

Yea, I have a feeling that we have have autonomous only zones where manual driving will be locked out for "safety". Highways will probably be autonomous only as well (in populated areas at least), or most people will just use it because by then it'll be really good. Rural and back roads and offroad will still allow human driving.
 

auntiebling

megalomaniacal troglodyte
Staff member
IF there is insurance, it will be part of your payment to rent the "pod" for where ever you're going. Personal pods sound reasonable, but most people will be so poor that they will use public transportation, which will be subsidized by the corps who are providing personalized "pod" use to the ever shrinking professional class. The elite, of course, will do whatever the fuck they want, much like they do now and have since the beginning.

once we fully get to Demolition Man reality, yo're probably correct. there' will be a middle stage that lasts for a few decades i believe, so i'm right damnit!

For sure when that happens on road motos will be gone.

15-20 is hard to believe, but it likely will happen.

The difficult part will be farms, ranchers isolated areas.
I could see it for metropolitan areas perhaps. Everywhere is going to be longer. These are the best of times.

matthed machaughanehoweverthefuckyouspellit already solved this in a movie. GPS guided tractors
 

mean dad

Well-known member
Well this was a depressing thread to read before I got out of bed.
Fucking Millenials :x

:rolleyes

What do millenials have to do with this? First they're lazy entitled snowflakes, now they're leading technology towards a future you don't like? :laughing


:afm199
 

afm199

Well-known member
I seriously doubt twenty years will remove the driver from the highways. The first politician who tries it will find that his constituency and campaign contributors have all fled the premises.

Good idea? Maybe. Gonna happen? :laughing

There is no current tech nearly close enough for independent vehicle operation and AI is far from that.

Sensor guided? You betcha. I can see cities with embedded sensors on master streets and roadways, where only semi autonomous vehicles are allowed. That's easy.
 

Climber

Well-known member
I think the first major step will be the auto collision avoidance additions becoming required, sensors around that car that engage brakes or stop somebody from turning into another car. It would be an easier sell, then they'll slide in the auto driving, once that's proven then it will be followed by no-drive zones.
 

Climber

Well-known member
As technology gets more sophisticated, the ability to protect us from ourselves increases....
 

aminalmutha

Well-known member
I mean come on... whoever designed this spent their formative years with their head shoved in a toilet...

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