Tenet

[nbean16]

I saw it in theaters. I'd say it is nowhere near as good as inception. It was very confusing, but by the end I was able to wrap my head around most of it. Some concepts introduced were really cool and not used in this genre before. You definitely need to pay attention. I really feel like I have to watch it a second time.

Being shot in 70mm made it look strange in theaters (at least the one I was in) and I'd like to see the 4k dvd. Its hard to say if it was even a good movie, but its worth seeing.

Also, Robert Pattinson officially sucks at acting. I'm not sure why he is ever cast. He has zero range and it seems like in most movies they just make sure he stands there without too many lines.

 

[HappyHighwayman]

Robert Pattinson was excellent and he’s amazing in the Lighthouse.

 

[Beauregard]

Looks like at the moment it's pre-order only...unless you have some, ah, acquisition skills (or someone who can acquire it for you on a home media server). I watched it via a friend. Didn't even realize it's not quite out yet for streaming.





I'm unfamiliar with either of those, I watched it on Plex...

Awesome, thanks brah, hope your life is good.

 

[HappyHighwayman]

I know it's a movie but I am always sort of annoyed by the "Omnipotent Russian Gangster" trope. Like his goons walk into a VERY high end restaurant (John was pretending to be a billionaire), and start eating their food and escorting John to the kitchen to get his ass kicked. Like nobody in the restaurant blinked, not a Maitre' D, not a chef, nobody reacted to 3 dudes throwing kitchen equipment at each other...does he phone ahead and say "ignore what's going to happen and there will be a nice check?" Aren't they concerned with image, the police, other diners?

Did they even pay the check? I mean I would have stiffed them for allowing guests to try and beat me up in their kitchen.

 

[Bowling4Bikes]

I know it's a movie but I am always sort of annoyed by the "Omnipotent Russian Gangster" trope. Like his goons walk into a VERY high end restaurant (John was pretending to be a billionaire), and start eating their food and escorting John to the kitchen to get his ass kicked. Like nobody in the restaurant blinked, not a Maitre' D, not a chef, nobody reacted to 3 dudes throwing kitchen equipment at each other...does he phone ahead and say "ignore what's going to happen and there will be a nice check?" Aren't they concerned with image, the police, other diners?

Did they even pay the check? I mean I would have stiffed them for allowing guests to try and beat me up in their kitchen.

:laughing

"ladies and gentlemen, tonight's entertainment may be a little more interactive than some of you are used to..."

 

[NorCalAthlete]

Awesome, thanks brah, hope your life is good.

Doin ok, hope you're doing well too.

Will be legally available in 4 days

Make liberal use of subtitles

In some interviews w/ the sound guys + Nolan the gist of it was that every audio decision was ultra planned out and very specifically overrode dialog (or damn near) in some cases. Nolan wants you to get specifics at times and just the gist at others.

I know it's a movie but I am always sort of annoyed by the "Omnipotent Russian Gangster" trope. Like his goons walk into a VERY high end restaurant (John was pretending to be a billionaire), and start eating their food and escorting John to the kitchen to get his ass kicked. Like nobody in the restaurant blinked, not a Maitre' D, not a chef, nobody reacted to 3 dudes throwing kitchen equipment at each other...does he phone ahead and say "ignore what's going to happen and there will be a nice check?" Aren't they concerned with image, the police, other diners?

Did they even pay the check? I mean I would have stiffed them for allowing guests to try and beat me up in their kitchen.

I would guess that :

1. The Russian owns the restaurant or is VERY familiar with the owners
2. This is not the first time this has happened there and it has been cleaned up / squashed before
3. You don't get a check at a super high end spot like that, you have an open tab that gets billed monthly and one of your staff takes care of it

 

[Kurosaki]

I was able to watch Tenet in theaters during the short window ours was open.

I haven't watched it again yet and I haven't watched any youtube videos explaining it further. I'll just watch it a couple more times to figure everything out.

That's what I did with Inception. In hindsight, I felt like a dummy for needing to watch Inception a few times even that plot seems simple compared to what the fuck's going on in Tenet.

 

[HappyHighwayman]

Tenet's sound is terribly mixed like Bane in Dark Knight Rises and Nolan's like "I DGAF"

 

[NorCalAthlete]

HHM - question, did you look into what Nolan did with the sound in Inception?

The TL;DR summary is that by taking the same sound piece / music and tweaking it for each scene, it can sound like completely different audio to the viewer and yet it's still the same audio just tweaked. So Inception uses audio trickery to subtly cue the viewer in on what level of the dream they are in. Tenet does something similar, but some of the audio is played backwards, which is more jarring to our hearing than most other audio tweaks. Fully intentional though.

https://cinemashock.org/2012/10/07/sound-cues-in-inception/


youtu.be/UVkQ0C4qDvM

https://screenrant.com/christopher-nolan-tenet-inception-better-movie-mistakes/

https://variety.com/2020/artisans/news/christopher-nolan-tenet-sound-problems-audio-mix-1234755898/

 

[HappyHighwayman]

Yeah that's very cool stuff but the sound mixing I refer to often happens when two characters are engaged in dialog and nothing else and you can't hear what they are saying.

Dialog is important.



Spoiler:

I was kind of surprised Neil straight up murders one of the security guards in the India house assault. Considering she was on their side and all...

 

[NorCalAthlete]

Yeah that's very cool stuff but the sound mixing I refer to often happens when two characters are engaged in dialog and nothing else and you can't hear what they are saying.

Dialog is important.



Spoiler:

I was kind of surprised Neil straight up murders one of the security guards in the India house assault. Considering she was on their side and all...

eh. random goon gonna random goon.

 

[DesiDucati]

Yeah that's very cool stuff but the sound mixing I refer to often happens when two characters are engaged in dialog and nothing else and you can't hear what they are saying.

Dialog is important.



Spoiler:

I was kind of surprised Neil straight up murders one of the security guards in the India house assault. Considering she was on their side and all...

She actually wasn’t on their side and they end up killing her at the end. The movie was confusing to understand watching in English. I had to rewatch it with Telugu subtitles and even that wasn’t enough. The story makes zero sense to me based on the laws of physics and biology. The writier tries to use special breathing masks for living in reverse entropy, but respiration is not the only biological function to be affected. If the guy’s body is in reverse entropy, how does he urinate and defecate? I did like a lot of the symbolism in the movie though. I ended up on reddit reading lots of fan theories about Max being the son of the Protagonist.

 

[HappyHighwayman]

I've given up on the deeper understanding and will just file it under "good time"