Suzuki on ABS

[BrownDawg]

From their website
*Depending on road surface conditions, such as wet, loose, or uneven roads, braking distance for an ABS-equipped vehicle may be longer than for a vehicle not equipped with ABS. ABS cannot prevent wheel skidding caused by braking while cornering. Please drive carefully and do not overly rely on ABS.

 

[S1KGSXR600]

Yep. Both my bikes will still skid even with ABS. Pretty sure they mean gravel, too, which will definitely increase brake time.

 

[EarlyApex]

True story. I can out brake ABS any day of the week. :teeth

 

[bikeama]

True story. I can out brake ABS any day of the week. :teeth

Before or after you crash:x

 

[S1KGSXR600]

Kind of was wondering about this today. I can feel my rear tire sliding around under hard braking, but the difference between abs sliding and non abs is that it doesnt want to whip around, it stays in line much easier. And I dont hear as much screeching.

Its interesting when your fishtailing (slightly), but its perfectly controlled. I prefer it to when I practice locking up my brakes, and the back starts to naturally back itself in :|

 

[Shaggy]

True story. I can out brake ABS any day of the week. :teeth

You and Lou are two peas in a pod!

 

[redtail]

True story. I can out brake ABS any day of the week. :teeth

I can't but I heard my grandma tell me stories where she out brakes ABS...

 

[GAJ]

An on/off switch on ABS is a wonderful thing.

On dry but ripply or broken up pavement ABS on some bikes can be a real hindrance.

 

[anytwowilldo]

This is a standard disclaimer written under the direction of their lawyer. It mean ABS can not always save you from yourself.

I believe that many very skilled riders can outbreak ABS under the right conditions. ABS shines when used by the less skilled or in panic situtaions where even the very skilled are caught off guard.

 

[louemc]

"caught off guard" And, "very skilled" are two things that aren't seen together. :laughing

Sure disclaimers can be created by the lawyers... But ....

ABS has no eyes, nothing is seen ahead of an event. This little item is part of the weakness.

ABS doesn't have the right brain either.... A bike rider can do better, than a device that doesn't have what we can have.

 

[redtail]

ABS has no eyes, nothing is seen ahead of an event. This little item is part of the weakness.

ABS doesn't have the right brain either.... A bike rider can do better, than a device that doesn't have what we can have.

These tidbits while true, are completely irrelevant when describing ABS. There are no such claims by manufacturers about their ABS systems having "eyes" nor "brains".

But taking the biased opinion of the person that posted it into consideration, I understand why he said it.

 

[louemc]

These tidbits while true, are completely irrelevant when describing ABS. There are no such claims by manufacturers about their ABS systems having "eyes" nor "brains".

But taking the biased opinion of the person that posted it into consideration, I understand why he said it.

"irrelevent", to you But critical/crucial, to me.... I don't give a big rats ass what claims or stance a manufacture takes.

I only care about what works, in my riding life.

 

[redtail]

"irrelevent", to you But critical/crucial, to me.... I don't give a big rats ass what claims or stance a manufacture takes.

I only care about what works, in my riding life.

No Lou, it's irrelevant because it makes no sense. I understand you don't care to have ABS and that's fine. But you display little to no knowledge of how ABS works and therefor disseminate bad information. Which would be okay for most of the riders here, but some newbies may believe you.

For someone who does not have the experience you have amassed, telling them misinformation about ABS safety systems is poor advise at best.

 

[Cincinnatus]

"irrelevent", to you But critical/crucial, to me.... I don't give a big rats ass what claims or stance a manufacture takes.

I only care about what works, in my riding life.

Lou, that's generally true in everything we do. It's to cover the manufacturer's butt if/when there's a lawsuit. And if the rider, regardless of skill level, does not know how the bike operates at whatever level, the rider is insufficiently skilled or familiar with the bike. Common sense, it's just not that common.

 

[GAJ]

I don't have an ABS, though I have several thousand miles on a bike with ABS and recognize its value, just like on autos, and would NEVER advise against buying a bike with well engineered ABS, (and, for me, an "off" switch).

Why someone with zero ABS experience on a bike comes into every moto ABS thread and puffs out his chest and implies ABS on motos is a bad idea remains a mystery.

 

[louemc]

I don't have an ABS, though I have several thousand miles on a bike with ABS and recognize its value, just like on autos, and would NEVER advise against buying a bike with well engineered ABS, (and, for me, an "off" switch).

Why someone with zero ABS experience on a bike comes into every moto ABS thread and puffs out his chest and implies ABS on motos is a bad idea remains a mystery.

It wouldn't be a mystery... If You developed/practiced the intense awareness/concentration/finesse of application of the controls, that makes it work better in every condition/situation, as....
A rider can do it, vs a computer managed program for riders that haven't/won't bother/incompetent types. :laughing

 

[GAJ]

It wouldn't be a mystery... If You developed/practiced the intense awareness/concentration/finesse of application of the controls, that makes it work better in every condition/situation, as....
A rider can do it, vs a computer managed program for riders that haven't/won't bother/incompetent types. :laughing

Um, none of my bikes have ABS.

Does that make me a better rider than someone who's bike(s) have ABS? :rolleyes

 

[louemc]

Um, none of my bikes have ABS.

Does that make me a better rider than someone who's bike(s) have ABS? :rolleyes

What kind of a rider you are.... Depends on You.

Good Lord, have you no rational thinking at all?

 

[Burning1]

It wouldn't be a mystery... If You developed/practiced the intense awareness/concentration/finesse of application of the controls, that makes it work better in every condition/situation, as....
A rider can do it, vs a computer managed program for riders that haven't/won't bother/incompetent types. :laughing

Competent riders know their own limitations.

 

[GAJ]

What kind of a rider you are.... Depends on You.

Good Lord, have you no rational thinking at all?

Completely rational; I retired at 51, how about you?

A rational rider would recommend ABS, especially to a new rider.