Suspect killed by police over K9

JakesKTM

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It just hapoend at 2:30 am so the “staff” was probly the lowly intern whi happened to be awake monitoring the police scanner.
 
Shaggy

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Police dogs are not considered police officers and are not valued even close to the same. We’ve discussed this before in this forum.

There is still a reasonable belief that an armed suspect avoiding custody by shooting a police dog would likely use that same gun to shoot at officers.

Not to mention, the officers heard the shots, but probably didn’t know which direction they were being fired. He could be shooting at the cops. He could be shooting at pedestrians. He could be shooting at the dog.

You’re really stretching on this one IMO, but we’ll see.
 
Mike95060

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Nick said:
Police dogs are not considered police officers and are not valued even close to the same. We’ve discussed this before in this forum.

There is still a reasonable belief that an armed suspect avoiding custody by shooting a police dog would likely use that same gun to shoot at officers.

Not to mention, the officers heard the shots, but probably didn’t know which direction they were being fired. He could be shooting at the cops. He could be shooting at pedestrians. He could be shooting at the dog.

You’re really stretching on this one IMO, but we’ll see.
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This seems very reasonable to me.
 
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TylerW

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Nick said:
There is still a reasonable belief that an armed suspect avoiding custody by shooting a police dog would likely use that same gun to shoot at officers.

Not to mention, the officers heard the shots, but probably didn’t know which direction they were being fired. He could be shooting at the cops. He could be shooting at pedestrians. He could be shooting at the dog.
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I'm pretty on board with both of these lines of reasoning. Any police action that results in dead people should be regarded as an unfavorable outcome, but I don't have an issue with the choices that the officers made in this situation.
 
byke

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As long as no DA bring charges against anyone protecting their property from someone who also has a deadly weapon and let's use use words like, "EYELAMINATED TEH THRET", then it's all good.
 
Climber

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Far too little information to really understand what the setup was.

I think that it's pretty safe to say that a suspect that is likely to shoot at a K9 unit is likely to also shoot at the police officers.
 
Blankpage

Blankpage

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The dog probably didn't run over wagging its tail and slobbering all over the suspect trying to lick his face.
 
mean dad

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Yeah, I'ma go with 'good shoot'. Runnin from the cops and poppin off rounds is a Very Bad Decision.
 
ScarySpikes

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The only real travesty I see here is calling a police dog a "K 9 officer". It's a dog, call it a dog. I like dogs as much as the next person but the police shouldn't be using cute puns.

Seems like a fair shoot other then that.
 
aminalmutha

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ScarySpikes said:
The only real travesty I see here is calling a police dog a "K 9 officer". It's a dog, call it a dog. I like dogs as much as the next person but the police shouldn't be using cute puns.

Seems like a fair shoot other then that.
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Travesty? GTFO, srsly.
 
Shaggy

Shaggy

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ScarySpikes said:
The only real travesty I see here is calling a police dog a "K 9 officer". It's a dog, call it a dog. I like dogs as much as the next person but the police shouldn't be using cute puns.

Seems like a fair shoot other then that.
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To be clear, those were the news agency’s words, not the LE agency.
 
JakesKTM

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K9 is really a military abbreviation for Canine. I dont think it has any more meaning than dog.

I agree with most here it will be a justifiable shoot. HOWEVER - the suspect WAS previously pulled over and did not produce a firearm. The threat was a K9 deployed immediatley into a confined space. There is a concurrent ingoing investigation into this same jurisdiction for the same confined space deployment and the suspect responded to that specific threat. Again - gun = death in police encounters. I get it.

The suspect vehicle was disabled. He wasnt going anywhere. But whatever ...... lets clear the roadway.
 
byke

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At the time, he wasn't getting out of his car after a drunken car chase. They didn't know he had a gun, so I can see why sending in the dog would have seemed a bit much, but in hindsight...knowing he had a gun and was down with using it, sending in the dog was the right call, don't you think? This one is a little different in that the force used seemed to be the right call in hindsight, because normally when we hear about these things, the force used was too much in hindsight.
 
JakesKTM

JakesKTM

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byke said:
At the time, he wasn't getting out of his car after a drunken car chase. They didn't know he had a gun, so I can see why sending in the dog would have seemed a bit much, but in hindsight...knowing he had a gun and was down with using it, sending in the dog was the right call, don't you think? This one is a little different in that the force used seemed to be the right call in hindsight, because normally when we hear about these things, the force used was too much in hindsight.
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From what I understand they didnt know he had a gun until he pulled it out and shot the dog. If the officer/s were in close proximity to the dog deployment well... there you go. Why deploy a dog when you are standing right there? I dunno......

When i was a kid my dad went on a drinken car chase on a navy base after a fight w my mom. These days he probly wouldnt have survived it.
 
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