SSR Racer Nick just up'd his game

Papi

Mmmmm...Faster
Fellow Barfers-

Please congratulate with me, my team mate and fellow racer on the Shooting Star Racing Team, Nick Gomez (and fellow barfer) for receiving his first #1 AMA Plate.

His outstanding and (believe me when I say) challenge at the AMA Land Speed Championship was exceptionally well earned.
Keeping these classic "production" bikes performing on the salt is no easy task.

Barfers, I present to you the #1 1000CC P-PC Champ, Nick Gomez.

Great job Nick, and lets do this again in 2015 :thumbup


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Wicked4Racin

MOJO Motorsports
Congrats on the great achievement! Having a number 1 AMA plate is no fake walk especially on the salt! Well done
 

corndog67

Pissant Squid
Good going guys...

Now it will be the high life, hanging out with supermodels, movie stars, Presidents of small countries will seek you out for photo ops, groupies will throw themselves at you (the pretty ones now, not the greasy ones of the old days!), you'll get free food at restaurants, just like cops do.

The world will be your huckleberry.
 
Congrats Nick.

Question for ya Papi...
So the P-PC class was for 1000CC and the record set was 117.808 MPH.

For some reason it doesn't seem like a really high speed for a 1000cc machine.
As you know I have an old Z1 (900cc) and I know it's been well over 115mph.
Not to slight Nick's achievement, but can you help me understand why 117MPH on a 1000cc machine is so record setting? :dunno

Can you provide the specifics on the bike that set this record?
Year, Make, Model, Modifications?
P = Production
PC = ??

Glad to hear your team has a #1 plate.
I know you've worked hard for it.
 

Lucky13xx

Well-known member
Congrats Nick.

Question for ya Papi...
So the P-PC class was for 1000CC and the record set was 117.808 MPH.

For some reason it doesn't seem like a really high speed for a 1000cc machine.
As you know I have an old Z1 (900cc) and I know it's been well over 115mph.
Not to slight Nick's achievement, but can you help me understand why 117MPH on a 1000cc machine is so record setting? :dunno

Can you provide the specifics on the bike that set this record?
Year, Make, Model, Modifications?
P = Production
PC = ??

Glad to hear your team has a #1 plate.
I know you've worked hard for it.

Accomplishment slighted:( I guess I'll just throw it in the trash now.

:twofinger

P-production frame
PC-production Classic motor. (Pre 80s) Basically an all stock bike from 79. No mods done.

To be honest, I agree 117 isnt a blistering speed. It was an open record. That is a 2 way average. My 1st run was a 124. Second was in a headwind. Also a horrible year weather wise for Bonnevile. The week we went, had maybe 3 ok days to run. Tons of storms and a flooded track.

All I could get was a down and back pass. The bike had a lot more with a few tweaks but time was running out try to run again. I opted to tear down for certification and grab the record.

I hear a lot of people comment about the speeds they think they do all the time. For perspective my speedo was somewhere in the 140mph range but my time slip said otherwise. I'll be out running her again this year, maybe I'll see you out there.:thumbup

Thanks for the support and accolades everyone.
 

Lucky13xx

Well-known member
Congratulations and thanks for the information. What are the rules on tires? Could you even find a stock OEM donut? And what tire would be best for those runs?

Now that's asking for the secret gold:teeth

Everyone has an opinion on what to run. Their all logical sounding reasons. Older bikes are a little more limited to what's still available.
aftermarket tires don't infringe on the production stipulations. Good rule of thumb is to go at least a speed rating higher then you plan to go.
 

SCC Ryder

Well-known member
:hail:thumbup Congrats Nick again! Thanks for allowing me to pick your brain the last time I spoke to you. I am planning a trip to head down south to check you guys out this year.
 

Burning1

I'm scareoused!
I've always heard that salt speed tends to be lower than road speed, even in ideal conditions.

Out of curiosity, how would you describe land speed racing? How much of it is prep work and mechanicals, vs riding skill, vs pure luck relating to weather, wind, and other external conditions?
 

Papi

Mmmmm...Faster
I've always heard that salt speed tends to be lower than road speed, even in ideal conditions.

Out of curiosity, how would you describe land speed racing? How much of it is prep work and mechanicals, vs riding skill, vs pure luck relating to weather, wind, and other external conditions?

So my top speed (official) at Bonneville during SpeedWeek on a Production ZX14 (1650CC PP Class) was 199.895MPH and 200.016 out the exit of the 5. Lower than road speed is difficult to quantify. There's no road wide, straight or smooth enough where we could achieve "Top Speed". The top cars (streamliners) are all over 400MPH now, and the fastest full streamlined bike is over 375. But even ideally, it has very little traction and is a monster to stay on.

I would describe LSR as the ultimate in patience game. It's just you out there. Your only focus is on how perfect can you make the pass. Everything on a sit on bike must be hyper dialed. We spend a lot of time on prep. Probably more than most. We are thinking about stuff all the time. We are talking and planning all the time. Nick and I meet and think about next moves in a conservative (including budget wise) way. So yes, there is a ton that goes into our bike builds and "prep". On the big 1650 Production bike, thats a 4th generation plant alone. It's also the 5x Champ in the West, and that doesn't come by luck. We are very serious about these bikes and milking everything out of them.

On the skill side, thats a whole other game. Imagine driving your car down 101 and it's been raining all day. First big rain of the year. Road has 3" of water and oil all over it. Now added to this your tires are bald. You also have only 5-10 degree steering and virtually no brakes. Your going 90MPH and you mash the peddle. Things get squirrelly fast. It's a little like that, now add 100MPH so your going 200. You get the picture. My biggest concern is keeping the bike straight.

Now the bike Nick set the Classic record on, that thing is old. Suspension is sub-par compared to today, tires are puny little things. Plus, the bike is Naked! So he has to hang on to that thing under very adverse conditions and try to maintain a constant acceleration and speed. Regardless of potential top speed, it's not easy.

Another word on the bikes. On the bigger bikes (we have two Hayabusa's plus a ZX14), it takes about 210-240HP to get to 200MPH if your a pilot between 170&185#s. That's NA on Race Gas. Lighter the bike, lighter the pilot, some margin less.

Now lets say you want to go just 100MPH faster, or 300MPH on a partially streamlined bike. We calculate to do it effectively that will take 3x the amount of power. So we will need to go from 200HP to 600HP. And thats one of the bikes we are working on now. So basically, to go 1/3 faster, 3x the power, 3x the aero.

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injun

Well-known member
Congrats to Nick!

Papi are you working on the BARF flag?

We will keep asking for this so we can find you.

hopefully no rain out this year.:twofinger
 

Papi

Mmmmm...Faster
Congrats to Nick!
Papi are you working on the BARF flag?
We will keep asking for this so we can find you.
hopefully no rain out this year.:twofinger

We will make it unmistakable to find us this year. We are busy getting new racing transport rigs right now.

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