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BusaRydah

Aspie Rydah
Fellow Riders:

I have been reading and applying to myself Twist of The Wrist 2. I'm taking time from work to post this because I just learned of a fellow rider that is recovering after totaling his bike. I have been M1 licensed for almost 15 years now.

I'm not saying I'm a riding god, definitely NOT. I just want to share with you the excellent info in this book.

This book has helped me realize a lot of wrong things I was doing. I don't stop trying to become a better rider. This book will make you enjoy riding much, much more! It will SAVE you in the scariest turns, from getting injured, and lastly - from DYING. I know I couldn't have done Page Mill Rd. without spilling and getting run over.

I have roads and De Anza's parking lot I practice to get better and to know my bike more intimately. The De Anza Police let me. The rule, no high speed. My chicken strips are less than 3/4 inch on my 'Busa with a 190/50 rear tire.

I rode by myself yesterday from 6 p.m. to 11 p.m. I did Hwy 9, Skyline, Page Mill Rd., the 10 mph hairpin on Central Expressway, De Anza parking lot and many other tight turns not running wide or spilling.

Please reach out to me if you have the same mindset about riding, to continually get better.
 
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BusaRydah

Aspie Rydah
Yes, newbs read that book and APPLY!

As far as the chicken strips. I was just trying to illustrate newbies that have a supersport class bike with an inch or bigger strips think they're badass when they're not. Especially their tire size of 180/55 17 is superior. For a bike as overweight and huge like a 'Busa, the common expectation is to have wide a$$ chicken strips.

weasel, I'm just trying to reach out to riders that want to help one another get better. By assessing our own limitations, we ride, we PRACTICE, we talk, we apply the new shared info to our riding, build our confidence in each other, know our bikes characteristics.

If there's a flaw you see in my riding, I expect you to share it with me. I welcome the feedback and vice versa.

Last night when I was doing low speed turns in the parking lot on my FAT PIG Busa, I experienced something I have never - I could feel the front and rear tires slip individually...it was a constant held throttle, countersteering, did differing diameters of turns, both right and left. I'm guessing that's my bike's way of saying you're close to this lean angle's grip threshold.
 
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BusaRydah

Aspie Rydah
My 'Busa is used as a commuter...I had a CB750 as a commuter, no chicken strips, pegs scraped...
 
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clutchslip

Not as fast as I look.
Jim, I know all your bikes...have none. Wouldn't you agree, chicken strips are generally a telltale factor of a rider's abilities? The answer is obvious.
Well, you didn't ask me, but NO, chicken strips tell you nothing. Just look at the stupid name. It's not about skill, it's about fear, thus "chicken".

The better your lines and body position, the less tire you use. As I have mentioned before, I am proud to have unused tire on my street ride. The track tires are used to the edge. It's hard to even find a corner that would require leaning to use the edge of the tire on the street, for me. Maybe you should rethink this chicken strip thing.
 

ZCrow

Well-known member
I think people in these forums lose perspective with the average rider. Let's face it BARF attracts people that are pretty obsessed with riding and tend to have a higher level of skill as a result. So sure if you ride track your street bike might have fat chicken strips and not reflect your riding skill. But you would be such a statistically out layer that you really don't factor.

The vast majority of riders have one bike and that bike reflects their lack of skills.

On the other hand, you should take the next plunge and head to the track and do some classes with Z2, Keigwins etc. You really can't fully apply the lessons of Twist of Wrist 2 on the street. You will never really fully develop your skills until you take it to the track. Besides its safer and faster.
 

russ69

Backside Slider
...The better your lines and body position, the less tire you use...

You can get to the edge of the tire in a parking lot, that doesn't make you fast. On the street, riding to the limit is foolish, save a little tire for when you need it.
 

UDRider

FLCL?
Chicken strips is an indicator how far to the limit rider wants to push it on a street. My street tires have "big" chicken strips. Track not so much.
 

BusaRydah

Aspie Rydah
Well, the reality is, nobody can truly extract ALL of their bike's performance on the street.

I am obsessed with trying to get to know more of my bike's characteristics and would like to find riders that were in my shoes that have been able to identify and overcome their limits.

In particular, like those videos I posted above.

How about this one's skill - http://youtu.be/fXWVYtsf43Y

How many of you can actually do that gymkhana stuff on your own bikes because you know it that good from balance, throttle, rear braking, outside peg weighting, and etc? I doubt any. If you can, please show and teach me.

There are VERY FEW that can command that kind of control from their own bikes. That's what I'm trying to find here, some with that skill to help me progressively get on that level.

I'm not interested in that high speed track stuff.

That's my reason for practicing in a huge vacant lot. It starts with precise output from the rider.

So who has this gymkhana skill that can make me their disciple?
 
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aergern

Infidel
Jim, I know all your bikes...have none. Wouldn't you agree, chicken strips are generally a telltale factor of a rider's abilities? The answer is obvious.


It could be a sign that you commute a lot and don't drag a friggin knee on 280/101/580 or whatever. To say this is a sign of a rider's ability ... is just stupid. But then again none of my three motos make my wood as big as a Turbobusa would .. maybe I'd drag a knee going to work if I had one. pfft. :thumbdown
 

jwb

Well-known member
I call them wisdom strips.

I have also perfected my technique for giving 'busa dudes (and kids on brand new ZX-12s wearing factory gear) the finger and shouting "you suck" as I take the superior line.
 
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