RRW - The Rookie papers...what a disaster!

Ace of Hearts

Well-known member
Oh and for the caliper thing, we have to tie them off or RTV them (which adds an additional level of oversite that might prevent such an error).

I've also caught myself not correctly putting in my rear brake pad once, and had to turn around before I got to the track and cut a practice session short.

There are SOOOOO many little things and it happens to SOOO many people ALL the time at race weekends. Most of them know enough to take pause.

We could totally go on a tangent here and point to the 93 races. The AFM point system does not reward trophies for cranking out as many races as possible. And our weekend structure does not permit one to race that much, and our class structure prevents one from running a single bike in just about every class. To even race 10 races a weekend with AFM (and get in 80 races a season) the person would have to have 6 bikes and run more than half the day constantly on the bike.

With AFM to get a trophie you pretty much have to be faster than the person next to you. With other clubs you simply just have to run a lot of races at a lot of events.

Take it back a step, and how about run 2 races a weekend. Thus giving you a lot of time to think things through before you hit the track over and over and over with little time to even as much fill the tank.
 
For sure, I would never run that many classes again. It all started with me running my 750 in the six different classes available. But once Curt came along, running eight classes to my six, and trying to steal the "Midwest Overall Championship" I decided to get another bike to be eligible for more classes. In the end, we wound up running ten classes a weekend, on two different bikes.

I totally agree, too many classes. I'd rather run one or two races that are longer in length, but CCS runs a lot of sprint races so they can have tons of classes.

The only championship that multiple classes count for is the "Overall" which is kind of bogus. But all the other classes are straight up. And yes, I was on the bike almost all damn day. And believe me, you don't win any of those championships without being faster than the guys you grid up with.
 

dgrace

are belong to us.
Ace of Hearts said:
With AFM to get a trophie you pretty much have to be faster than the person next to you.

Or enter Super Dino. Or F-Singles. Or any Vintage race. But that's a whole other thread... :teeth

dave
 

J-

Shall not comply!
I think some good will actually come from this..
Some future "new racers" will probably read the articles and say(hopefully) to themselves "I don't want to be That Guy" and it will make them be more attentive to what they are doing.

I have'nt read them 'cause RRW can lick the sweat from my sack as far as I'm concerned(Is a subscription 4 issues long?:confused)

BTW "Welcome to BARF Fuckstain"..I mean..Marshall :twofinger

J-
 

Trackho

Well-known member
Sklossmonster said:
The brake caliper incident was a huge mistake, but I was furiously switching wheels in a dimly lit and crowded trailer in the middle of a downpour. And yes, I forgot to tighten the caliper bolts ... like an idiot, but it was an honest mistake I hope no one else ever makes. The tech inspector didn't catch it, and neither did I. Thus, the "lesson" of always checking your bike over again.
Marshall

Hehe--You must have talked to Ulrich or Resus--Youre Welcome;) ;)

Does CCS NOT require Saftey wire on Caliper bolts(thats plain old scary)????I dont see how this is possible if saftey wire is required--it certainly is for us.

I hear ALOT of excuses/rationalizations, yet still a general trend towards incredibly dangerous actions/in actions--Now this month you bought two 600s--only compounding your potential issues--creating a worse environment for you fellow racers--hopefully you will get some assistance to reduce the probability of a deadly error.

FYI --A "King of the CCS Tards (Amatuer/Novice/Whatever)" isnt worth breaking a fingernail over
 

jrace

MotoGPhreak
Marshall, come hang out on BARF for awhile. That way, you'll find it's *impossible* to fit 93 races into a season with all the posting you'll do. :D

-jim
 

Racer_Boy

Well-known member
Hey Marshall, thanks for popping in and giving us some further info. I stopped in to EAC to say hello when I was home for Christmas but I missed you. Don't get to bent about all the crap you have/will get from these AFM guys, the club in general has a pretty strong need to feel superior. Next time I'm back in Evanston, I'll try to look you up!
 

budman

General Menace
Staff member
Marshall .. like Holeshot said.. it took balls and props to you for giving us your feedback.

That many classes in a day has to be total havoc and a challenge..:wow

Welcome to :barf

Look forward to seeing future articles.

:smoking
 

Holeshot

Super Moderator
Staff member
Actually Devin, most AFM club members have a need to put safety first. Don't mind the fact that the AFM airfence will be used for the AMA event.
 

420

Well-known member
Actually Holeshot, many of us have race in many organizations across the country and many of us have seen AFMers make just as many stupid mistakes as the racers in the next org. AFM has its fair share of what some may call "stupid" practices.
And actually EVERY org proclaims safety as a priority and tries to do something about it. AFM happens to race at a very dangerous track (Sears) and airfence is a neccesity, so it is bought and used.
I have raced in orgs where the tech is much more stringent than AFM if you believe that leads to increased safety.
Don't preach stuff here to those who may not know and believe everything you say.

AFM is a great organization, as are all the others that promote racing motorcycles throughout the country.

Good job Marshall from another Chicago boy on the west coast. We've all made dumb mistakes, just most of ours aren't published worldwide...
 

AFM#719

Well-known member
Too funny or too dangerous?

This can't be real... If so, Berto is spot on. If not, great entertainment!!

Thx BARF! :applause
 
No worries. Sorry I missed you, Devin, thanks for stopping in, another time, man, another time.

Thanks, Budman, it was pretty insane running so many sprints. I'm glad I survived it, but I wouldn't want to try that many classes again.

Trackho, I know a couple of "CCS Tards" who might surprise you. I hope you get an opportunity to grid up against them sometime.

Holeshot, I love your avatar, man. I'm an old school comic collector from back in the day. DC wasn't really my thing, I was a Marvel guy, and I alway dug Cap, and I've never seen that image. Sweet, very nice.

420, I appreciate your objective opinions, thanks for shedding some light on a few items in here.

To all, I hope you can get out of those articles what I tried to put in them, and try not to be too judgemental. The bad stuff makes for better copy than the uneventful, and as some wise man once said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

I'm not religious, but it seemed an appropriate quote at the moment.

Take it easy, guys, and good luck in your seasons.

Later.
 
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Dove

productively obsessed
Sklossmonster said:
No worries. Sorry I missed you, Devin, thanks for stopping in, another time, man, another time.

Thanks, Budman, it was pretty insane running so many sprints. I'm glad I survived it, but I wouldn't want to try that many classes again.

Trackho, I know a couple of "CCS Tards" who might surprise you. I hope you get an opportunity to grid up against them sometime.

Holeshot, I love your avatar, man. I'm an old school comic collector from back in the day. DC wasn't really my thing, I was a Marvel guy, but I alway dug Cap, and I've never seen that image. Sweet, very nice.

420, I appreciate your objective opinions, thanks for shedding some light on a few items in here.

To all, I hope you can get out of those articles what I tried to put in them, and try not to be too judgemental. The bad stuff makes for better copy than the uneventful, and as some wise man once said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

I'm not religious, but it seemed an appropriate quote at the moment.

Take it easy, guys, and good luck in your seasons.

Later.

:applause

I applaud your maturity sir - refreshing around here.
 

Racer_Boy

Well-known member
Holeshot said:
Actually Devin, most AFM club members have a need to put safety first. Don't mind the fact that the AFM airfence will be used for the AMA event.
I hear that alot. It's kind of like questioning someone's patriotisim or using the "don't you care about the kids?" defense. Just another form of feeling superior. Of course every racing org has saftey as their priority but I guess the AFM are just saftey warriors! Where would all the other orgs be if they didn't have the AFM's lead to follow?
 

lokisdog

Well-known member
Racer_Boy said:
I hear that alot. It's kind of like questioning someone's patriotisim or using the "don't you care about the kids?" defense. Just another form of feeling superior. Of course every racing org has saftey as their priority but I guess the AFM are just saftey warriors! Where would all the other orgs be if they didn't have the AFM's lead to follow?

Not sure if you ever raced with another org, I did do a year with CCS when I first started, maybe the West Coast region was different than back East, but I can tell you with 100% certainty the tech was not nearly as tough as AFM's, and may other aspects like how they gridded, etc were in my opionon less safety oriented than AFM.

AFM may not be the safest club, but I think we do a pretty good job of at least trying to be.

And yes, AFM was far superior to the CCS I saw and experienced. I don't know if we're superior or inferior to anyone else, but that one I know for sure.
 

afm199

Well-known member
I'm an AFM racer
no backmark pacer
bad to the bone
on my cellphone.

I get props from the fans
for my 14th place
don't need no tech man
to check my plastic case

I race on weekends
if I got the bucks
and I'll stuff your ass
wit my BARF muck

All my friends tell me
I'm a BAMF
though my girlie sez
I'm a sissy butt and suck.

Chorus:

I'm and AFM racer
get outa my way
I may be slow and old
but I still love to play
 

Racer_Boy

Well-known member
lokisdog said:
Not sure if you ever raced with another org, I did do a year with CCS when I first started, maybe the West Coast region was different than back East, but I can tell you with 100% certainty the tech was not nearly as tough as AFM's, and may other aspects like how they gridded, etc were in my opionon less safety oriented than AFM.

AFM may not be the safest club, but I think we do a pretty good job of at least trying to be.

And yes, AFM was far superior to the CCS I saw and experienced. I don't know if we're superior or inferior to anyone else, but that one I know for sure.
Thanks, I'm glad I didn't have to prove my own point, I knew "the Club" wouldn't fail me.
 
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