Rode 36 today on the new, NEW FZ-09

shouldnthave

Taze away, Yana...
I scooped up a 2016 FZ-09 about two months ago. I rode it down 36 once, and did a track day on it during the break-in. I HATED IT! HAAAAAAATED IT! The bike was trying to freaking kill me. The front washed out in every turn. The rear would squat under hard acceleration causing the front wheel to constantly be off the ground. Tucking, wallowing, and the front end full of slappers. :mad On top of all that, the throttle was flat. It was like riding a fat blubber filled pig. :thumbdown


In a last ditch effort I called up Nickie and Jim @ Catalyst Reaction for some help. They told me about my options having worked on the FZ numerous times, and I went to work on the forums reading experiences/tips. From everything I found their suggestion for the K-tech 20MM cartridges and K-tech Razor-R rear shock were the best bang for the buck, so I loaded up the FZ, and headed to San Carlos.

Two weeks later I have my new, NEW FZ-09 in the back of my truck headed back to Chico. When I scooped the bike up Jim was there to twist the knobs, and finish the setup. I also had them flash the ECU for me to accommodate the new Akra full system sitting on my shop floor.

It took a week or two to find the time to finish the build, but in about two hours I had the new Akra system installed, and a set of Lightech rear-sets for a GP shift configuration. It's nice to have all the motorcycles the same. The last thing I installed were the third best thing you can put on a bike, tank pads. Not just any tank pads, TechSpec 'X-Line' tank pads. These are pads they have been experimenting with for about a year, and I tell you, they are the best tank pad ever made. EVER. You can only get the X-line from their website as they are still in Beta, so go and check them out. You won't be disappointed.

Now to the ride report (sorry, I'm not one to stop for photos...). Took the new, NEW FZ-09 from Chico via 99 North (boooring), to 36 West, turned up 3 North to Weaverville, fueled up, and returned in reverse order (only 300 miles round trip). I was a bit timid at first with the memory of the bike trying to kill me, but by the time I got to the whoops on 36w I found myself more, and more confidant. Halfway to 3 North I switched the bike to 'A' mode, and just let 'er rip. :party

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I ran up and down 3 with my usual supermoto mid-corner speeds, but all while stripping the rubber off the stock Q3 that came with the bike. My exit speeds started to get a little... exuberant as I headed back down to pick up 36 East. The bike was running on rails!

The roads were wide open, minimal traffic as 36/3 are know for. Passed tons of motorcycles in the oncoming, everyone waving, enjoying the great weather, Barfers? A little new construction on 3, but nothing that slowed me down, or upset the bike much.

By the time I got to the Chevron in Red Bluff I had the dumbest grin on my face. I'm sure everyone around me thought I had lost my mind as I fueled giggling like a little kid. I'm absolutely in love with my new, NEW FZ-09! :) And to think I was about to walk away from this amazing machine.

If you have never had your bike setup by a pro, head on over to Catalyst Reaction and have Jim take a look at it. You may just need a quick setup, but I always recommend getting the bike tailored to your riding ability. It changes everything about your ride. That said, even a knob twist or two will wakeup your beast.

Now I just need a new seat pad, or better ass... :ride

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89fj

late braking
Awesome
I had Jim do the K-tech business on my FJ last year. Very happy with the way it handles ever since :thumbup
 

Zerox

Can I be....frank?
I scooped up a 2016 FZ-09 about two months ago. I rode it down 36 once, and did a track day on it during the break-in. I HATED IT! HAAAAAAATED IT!

Pay $9.5k out the door for this 2016 bike, you hated it so bad you had to spend thousands of dollars more on it? :wtf

No thanks.
 

shouldnthave

Taze away, Yana...
Pay $9.5k out the door for this 2016 bike, you hated it so bad you had to spend thousands of dollars more on it? :wtf

No thanks.

Nah, $8,100 OTD with $2,500 in suspension/flash. More ($2,500 more) than I wanted to spend for sure, but I'm glad I got a bike I can love out of it. Sure it's BS that Yamaha didn't set this bike up to succeeded from the get go, but if they had, the bike would have cost 2k+ more out the door, and you/I would have still re-valved/sprung it. :ride

ETA: I just looked, and the MSRP on a 2016 R6 (250 CC less than the FZ-09) is $10,990. That's $2,790 more (MSRP) than the FZ, and I would still need to pay freight, taxes, and a valve/spring job for the suspension... For less motor, and a shitty riding position...

I Think I did okey.
 
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budman

General Menace
Staff member
Cool J! :thumbup

Glad it worked out. Next time how about a pic of the bike in your driveway at least..:laughing
 

Blankpage

alien
Pay $9.5k out the door for this 2016 bike, you hated it so bad you had to spend thousands of dollars more on it? :wtf

No thanks.

Yeah you could get a nice bike for all that and any $$$$ spent on the 09 won't help its resale value.
 

T100

*Retired*
Just curious, before you bought the bike did you read any reviews on it? The reason I ask is that the reviews that I read, said almost the exact same thing that you experienced.

That the bike needs serious suspension work because, "it tries to kill you". When I read that, I completely wrote off ever buying one.

But, glad that you got it sorted to your satisfaction. Albeit, that you had to dump 2.5K into it to make it rideable.
 

shouldnthave

Taze away, Yana...
Just curious, before you bought the bike did you read any reviews on it? The reason I ask is that the reviews that I read, said almost the exact same thing that you experienced.

That the bike needs serious suspension work because, "it tries to kill you". When I read that, I completely wrote off ever buying one.

But, glad that you got it sorted to your satisfaction. Albeit, that you had to dump 2.5K into it to make it rideable.

I did read all about it, but the reviews for the 2016 were not out yet. I was hoping that Yamaha would have corrected the issue due to the bad press. I was wrong... Super happy with it now.
 

Map8

I want nothing
Staff member
I don't see a problem with upgrading suspension on a bike that the owner knows has budget suspension. Fork and shock upgrades are the best money you can spend on a bike, IMO. OP still has a Hell of a lot of bike for spending between 10-11K. Are there other standards with similar reliability, maintenance schedule, weight, power and suspension for what he's got into this bike (ignoring the used market)?
 
I don't see a problem with upgrading suspension on a bike that the owner knows has budget suspension. Fork and shock upgrades are the best money you can spend on a bike, IMO. OP still has a Hell of a lot of bike for spending between 10-11K. Are there other standards with similar reliability, maintenance schedule, weight, power and suspension for what he's got into this bike (ignoring the used market)?

Agreed.

Every bike I've ever owned requires suspension work. I'm sure if I bought a 20k S1000XR or SD 1290 I'd still need to do some suspension work.

Buy a 9k bike and getting it dialed to exactly how you want it is a good idea to me.

My 12k F800GS will likely be getting cartridges and a new rear shock come the the beginning of next year. That'll be at least 2.5k.
 

rugbydawg13

MoreTitaniumThanMyBikes
Nice write-up. Pretty much every bike I've ever owned needed suspension work and fuel mapping. I consider it part of the acquisition. My 848 was unridable and I got it. Terrifying. Dave Moss helped me get it close for street but the compression valving in the forks is shit. I got it even better with Jim's help when I took it to Thunderhill one weekend. Lots more fun now and love that bike.
 

Smash Allen

Banned
I don't see a problem with upgrading suspension on a bike that the owner knows has budget suspension. Fork and shock upgrades are the best money you can spend on a bike, IMO. OP still has a Hell of a lot of bike for spending between 10-11K. Are there other standards with similar reliability, maintenance schedule, weight, power and suspension for what he's got into this bike (ignoring the used market)?

I don't see a problem either. Lot's of people upgrade suspension as a matter of fact when they get a new bike to make it fit for them and their needs. If you're going to do that anyways, wouldn't you prefer to have the manufacturer save money in the parts you're replacing anyway? Lower MSRP..

As for the throttle, it has been fixed with new updates from the dealer for free. Or if you get a full exhaust you can flash the ecu for $200 and get 115-120hp.

I don't like to tinker on bikes so much anymore. I like to setup a new bike for myself and then have it just work. That's what I did on the FZ and what I will do on my next one.
 
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