RIP Stopper? - "Rights vs. Lefts: The 80% Rule For Survival" (Long)

[Gary J]

I believe the 80% he is talking about is ....... If you already think the turn requires X amount of caution, give it 20% more caution than you think it needs. Or to put it simply: Go easier than you think you should on right handers, they have higher consequences.

Hadn't anticipated that the "80% Rule" concept, on consciously adopting a "chilling out" approach on right vs. lefts would end up needing more detailed explanation to prevent number crunching ..... but as that I guess it did here on the forum, you certainly provided a nice follow-up Moto4Fun.

Thanks for taking on the task, and doing a very nice job in accurately encapsulating the target goal of this concept, for rider behavior modification. :thumbup

 

[Grease_Monkey]

so if I go buy a 480cc bike then i can take the right hander at 100%? 480 is 80% of 600.

 

[schteve]

so if I go buy a 480cc bike then i can take the right hander at 100%? 480 is 80% of 600.

Hmmmm..Even a 480cc will get me in trouble.:ride

 

[hitman5532]

I love 400's-- i miss my 400rr

 

[socal_sumo_78]

Entering right hand turns too fast is particularly seductive for people that are right side dominant, the turn feels more natural and "feels" like you have more control then a left turn, hence a tendency to goose it that little extra bit.

Great advice.

Exactly, as a result I rode Ice House rd and Wentworth Springs with the full intention of making my left handers as good as my right. If anyone knows those roads - it's the perfect place (aside from the track) to be messing with your skills. The idea was to ride at 75% of my top speed for the area, but really working on my form for the lefties. Result, I got to Georgetown for lunch and had the lefties down as good as my rights.

The best way to work on stuff is to go a bit slower, think about what you're doing, and not be an idiot. The squids are doing the opposite. 80% rule is a great idea for everyone.

 

[Xenophonii]

Thanks Gary. Good, solid information that should be stickied. Nice to see a soild non-flame thread

 

[ntula]

i heard if you apex late you are always invincible no matter what.

 

[HalfEvil]

I would say it is not smart to take any turns at 100%. Take lefts and rights equally: at a pace that will get you home. On turns you do want to "push it", make sure they are highly visible where you and cars can see all the way through it. Its just as easy to die taking a left hand turn.

 

[MotoWhip101]

Being the learn by doing type of person that I am...this information may and or may not have saved my life. Never even considered the difference between the two, other than some of the right handers are tighter turns! Definitely going to cruise my usual rides and check out the righties....Thank You Gary!

 

[SepulDude]

way to break it down

It's anecdotes like that which brought me to BARF. Simple but spot on. Like the dude in that Hypermotard crash vid who warned about "tar snakes" on the road. Shit like that changes your perspective. :hail

 

[Dove]

dribble.

Fail...that is a bunch of wasted keystrokes.

Stop making enemies and start using logic. You're able to form complete sentences which leads me to believe you can not only comprehend Gary's concepts but use logic to arrive at intelligent conclusions. Stop playing dumb...aka - devil's advocate.

 

[GAJ]

I know I should cover my brake at all times, but truth is I don't.

I do however make an absolute conscious decision to do so on blind rights, as well as go slower, for all the reasons stated by the OP.

Three deer in a gully on a blind right eyeballed me recently and a light went off in my dense head.

Great post.

 

[ntula]

i take my rights as fast as my lefts, i get on the moto mx style, and power out, tires sometimes slidin' and spinning.. you can take incredible sharp turns like this... naked bikes rule.. you can't really do this with full plastics.. :toothless