RIP Stopper? - "Rights vs. Lefts: The 80% Rule For Survival" (Long)

Gary J

Well-known member
As that I'm truly saddened to see another RIP thread appear today, so soon after the recent Hwy 35 fatality, I first want to genuinely send out an RIP for Adam, and my sincere condolences to his friends and family .... and to those other unfortunate individuals (the truck driver and his family) whose lives were permanently impacted by today's tragic incident on Hwy 9.

That said, finding some very small way to try to potentially make an impact that may prevent even a single additional loss-of-life from the same "type" (crossing over the centerline of the road, in a "RIGHTHAND" turn) of motorcycle control error ...... is my commitment at this point! Finding some way to use the open door for attention of riders that such a horrible series of incidents, so close together, produces ...... to bring something "positive" out from the other side, is my hope.

One of the most critical rules in longterm survival - for regular sportbike riding on the twisty backroads (like those in the SC mountains; Hwy 9, etc) ...... and one that I highly credit for allowing me to survive nearly a quarter of a million miles on those very roads ..... is the "Rights vs. Lefts - 80% Rule". It was important enough for dedicating a chapter to it in the first of my "Sportbiking: The Real World" books.

I've taken that content and cut-n-pasted it below, with the hope that some rider(s) that have enough interest to take the time to read it, absorb the concept, and adopt it in their own riding behavior, will survive and thrive in achieving a long history of fun/safe sportbike rides ..... that they will be able to live and tell their children about in the future! :thumbup

*******************************************************************************

Right Turns vs. Left Turns - "The 80% Rule"

The motive behind this behavior may not at first, be obvious. However with just a little thought, the reason should become quite clear.

The primary reason behind this approach, especially during more spitited paced riding, is survival. The two scenarios I've provided below should shed some light on this rationale:

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Scenario #1 - (Lefthand Turn):

  • The rider approaches a smooth 50 MPH lefthand corner, on a familiar stretch of two lane mountain road. The corner is a constant radius turn, allowing for a nice steady throttle roll-on, right out to the exit. On the outer righthand edge of the road, beyond the edge of the asphalt, is a wide flat dirt shoulder on which cars can pull out to allow for passing.

    Setting up his initial entry from the far right hand side of the right lane (the ideal line to "straighten out" this corner), the rider has an excellent degree of visibility through the first half of the turn (insured of no oncoming traffic, or unexpected obstacles in his lane).

    Snapping off a countersteering maneuver, the rider drops the bike smoothly into the entrance of the corner, with total confidence. Two-thirds of the way through, the bike encounters a small patch of loose sand, previously deposited by an overloaded pickup truck. Passing over the patch, the bike's front tire begins to slip away, causing the rider to unavoidably drift wide of his intended line, by over three feet. This action puts the bike only inches from the righthand edge of the pavement, where the tire (past the sandy patch) finally catches it's grip, allowing the redeemed rider to continue on down the road, shaken but uninjured!

    Had the rider not had the good fortune to have gained control, before reaching the edge of the asphalt, his fate would have probably been a 40 MPH lowside across the dirt shoulder, causing repairable damage to his bike and minor (if any) injuries to himself (provided he was outfitted in full protective equipment).

- Scenario #2 (Righthand Turn):

  • The same rider approaches a smooth 50 MPH righthand corner possessing similar characteristics to our previous example. Due to the small hillsides, that decorate the perimeter of the road, visibility is limited to about one-third of the way through the corner.

    The rider drops the bike firmly into the turn with confidence (though in this case, due to lack of adequate visibility, not enough information was actually available to justify it). Crossing through the apex of the turn, and beginning his exit; a patch of sand is again encountered, causing the bike to begin to drift (over three feet) past the leftmost limits of the intended path. Unfortunately, three feet to the LEFT of the intended path, puts the bike over two feet into the oncoming lane of traffic!!

    Regardless of whether the rider saves the actual lowside or not; in this situation his fate is no longer in his hands. The most skilful "save", of the initial lowside predicament, will be of little consequence, if a car, truck, or other motorcylist just happens to coming up the road in the opposite direction!! Game Over - RIP rider threads flood the forums.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The lesson that I hope is taken away from the two scenarios above, is that the allowable margin for error in "righthand" turns is significantly smaller, and the potential consequences for such errors exponentially greater; then most "lefthand" turns.

As a result of that recognition, the golden rule to take away from this is; to adopt an absolute, religiously enforced (by conscious decision-making) policy to add an additional level (20%+) of already existing respect and caution in setting the maximum pace at which you ride all righthand turns.

For any righthand turns that you're not totally familiar with, and/or not totally sure of the current pavement conditions, adding an additional 10-20% caution factor into the above equation - when setting the maximum turn-entry pace - is also highly recommended!

That's "The 80% Rule"; for rights vs. lefts.

I can guarantee every single rider, newbie or experienced pilot, that the commitment to maintain the discpline to follow this rule is a critical element to longterm survival in the sport of motorcycling ---- especially for any riding that includes the challenges of twisty backroads (like those in the SC mountains).

The tragic recent, as well as historical, events that have claimed the lives of so many of our fellow riders in righthand turns .... on some of our favorite local backroads ........ is a strong testament to the validity of the above information.

Ride safe, ride smart, ride for (a LONG) life! :ride

Gary J

***************************************************************************
 
Last edited:

Spec-ECU

required protocol
:thumbup

I agree, though I admit I've never thought about it like you've illustrated. You learn something new every day you survive a ride, thanks Gary!
 

Charmed

Inbound @ this time, over
Yet another sharing of solid wisdom by Gary J...Nice!:thumbup

Shouldn't you be out on the "wife's little 250" inspecting some pavement on 9?

:laughing
 

fms1day

なにが!?!&#
I remember reading this awhile back somewhere else.. Or it could have been on BARF. It was considered the Golden Rule and I believe it's probably one of the most important piece of information that all riders should keep in mind when riding out in the twisties. :thumbup
 

DAVE R6

Well-known member
thank God for people like Gary. By the way way, if you ever see him on his little 250 and you are one of those guys on a 1000. Trust me he is faster on his 250 than you are on your 1000.
 

silverbelt

Well-known member
Gary, I remember that back a long time ago on one of the SMR over on SBR. Never forgot it. A timely bit of life saving advice.
 

RhythmRider

Still Rhythm Rydin'
First of all, I don't know where you're getting this 80%. 80% of what? When we're adding an additional caution factor of 10-20%, are we now at 90-100%? Or is it the percentage of our normal speed through a given turn? In that case 80% would mean 40mph instead of 60mph. So then would we be subtracting 10-20% to make it the 70% rule? I'm kind of confused on what you meant.

What I'm really trying to say is that I just don't like the idea of using a pre-determined percentage as a gauge of how fast I should be entering a corner. Picture your imaginary rider coming down a one lane road (I'm picturing Mines Rd in my head), and approaching a blind right handed corner. He knows the turn and would feel fine going through it at 45mph in ideal conditions, but since it's a right hander, he decides to go into it at about 36mph, and since it's a narrow, one-lane road, he takes a mid-road entry where visibility is lower. He leans the bike into the turn, gets to the desired lean angle, and then he sees it - the entire right half of the road is covered in a half-inch of gravel, and there's a car coming down the other side of the road.

So my question is... is the 80% rule going to save him in this case? I think he would have been safer if he had slowed down enough to see through the corner before committing to a speed or lean angle. Since he didn't have all the information by the time he started leaning into the turn, he left himself open to the possibility that he might still be going too fast for conditions. In order to eliminate that possibility, the rider would have to delay full turn-in until he can see through the corner. This means the rider would have to slow down based on how sharp the corner is until they can see all the way through it. If the rider uses an arbitrary number to apply to, for example, all right hand corners, then it creates the need to enter the corner at a certain speed as opposed to judging it and feeling it out until he is comfortable enough to commit to it. This is why I think the 80% rule can still get riders in trouble.
 
Last edited:

Spec-ECU

required protocol
Adding an additional 20% caution factor means you tone down your hypothetical run of 100% pace to 80% (as a guideline).

It's really pretty simple, and it's not to literally set either an exact speed or percentage to tackle a turn, but to so simply tone it down a little for your right hand turns instead of going full blast.

By any means, if you feel you should tone it down more than 20%, go for it. That's the idea.
 

irishgixxer

Track Rider
Great write-up on explaining the consequences of left vs right turns. :hand

I approach any corner with my mind thinking " How can I get around this bend safely" some people think "How fast can I take this corner today"
 

paladinnorcal

Well-known member
Entering right hand turns too fast is particularly seductive for people that are right side dominant, the turn feels more natural and "feels" like you have more control then a left turn, hence a tendency to goose it that little extra bit.

Great advice.
 

Moto4Fun

Well-known member
80 - 20 rules

First of all, I don't know where you're getting this 80%. 80% of what? ...
...This is why I think the 80% rule can still get riders in trouble.

I believe the 80% he is talking about is more of a Metaphorical 80%. Have you not heard of the broad use of 80-20 rules? The percentage is not what you are supposed to take from this lesson. If you want to take 80% literally, then think of it like this: You have a predetermined notion for the way you will take a given left hander and a given right hander (100%), next time you go through that very same right hander, tone it down 20% (80%). It doesn't have to be speed, it can be line, lean angle, apex, etc. Just address the turn at 80% of the total zest that you previously would have. If you already think the turn requires X amount of caution, give it 20% more caution than you think it needs.
Or to put it simply: Go easier than you think you should on right handers, they have higher consequences.
 

motomaven

Well-known member
Thanks for breaking it down so people can actually visualize it! This is why I joined BARF, to be part of a community that is dedicated to providing education and safety tips for riders.
 

Climber

Well-known member
Great post Gary! :thumbup

Even after 32 years of riding I am constantly working at improving my skills and awareness so that I can keep the odds heavily in my favor of coming home from every time that I ride my bike while still maximizing my enjoyment of riding.

One strict rule that I have for myself that I never break is that I only ride when I can have 100% focus 100% of the time.

From both observation and reading up on accidents with both very experienced riders and new riders I have come to the conclusion that a large number of crashes happen when a rider either doesn't have 100% focus on their riding (and the environment around them) or they lost their focus for a critical moment or longer.
 

Razorback

Moobie
Thanks for putting this more eloquently and logically than I could.
I have tried to explain something like this to a new rider friend of mine and forwarded this on to her hoping she takes it to heart.
Thanks. :thumbup
 
Top