Rear Wheel Lock + Stall

chibichanman

Survivor
Is this a common occurrence?

Of the few times I did a panic brake and locked the rear tire, the bike stalled with it.

This is for an 05, Kawi 636. This morning some guy decided to brake super early to let a pedestrian cross, I'm not sure if it had to do with a cold engine (I did warm it up, but not to 170/180 degrees), but I've had the bike stall when the engine was fully warmed up and it was a warm day.

So, input?

Thanks in advance!
 

Nemo Brinker

Tonight we ride
Did you pull in the clutch while braking?

Also...if you're locking the rear under max-effort braking, you're using too much rear brake.
 

flying_hun

Adverse Selection
Think of it like a fixie bike. If the clutch is engaged, when the wheel stops the engine stops. This is what the folks in tech support refer to as, "a meatware issue". :teeth

Good advice from Nemo. *edit* You may also wish to consider one of the cone practice opportunities that get posted here monthly. Further, consider working on your following distance and situational awareness, as well as emergency braking (primarily the front) so that emergency braking is less likely to be required.

Cheers,
 

chibichanman

Survivor
Thanks for the input everyone, much appreciated on the tips and such.

I believe I did pull in the clutch, but I guess not fast enough for it to prevent engine seizure. I was anticipating the car stopping, but I didn't expect him to do it 1/8 of a mile away, but it was my fault in all manner.

I have a tendency to lock the rear tire, but only under emergency situations, when I'm most likely lightening the rear tire as much as possible without doing a stoppie.

When I switch to steel braided, I'm thinking of keeping my rears plain rubber.
 

flying_hun

Adverse Selection
I believe I did pull in the clutch, but I guess not fast enough for it to prevent engine seizure.

:nerd Not to put too fine of a point on it, but your engine didn't seize, or this thread would be in the garage, and we'd be discussing expensive noises. The engine stopped. :nerd

I have a tendency to lock the rear tire, but only under emergency situations, when I'm most likely lightening the rear tire as much as possible without doing a stoppie.

More practice. Seriously.

When I switch to steel braided, I'm thinking of keeping my rears plain rubber.

Part of the justification for the switch is power, and part of it is feel (leaving bling out of the equation all together :teeth). More feel may help you modulate the rear brake more effectively.
 

masameet

Rawr!
You used both brakes, right?

Yesterday during cone practice some riders found that in using their rear brakes only and traveling at 15 mph, they skidded to a stop. They were only pressing on the rear brake peg too, not stomping on it (I think I asked them to stomp on it but none of them seemed to want too). Since they all held in the clutch, none of them had to restart their bikes.
 
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