Rear ended on 12W @ Trinity in Sonoma

This follows a post I made in the General section asking for assistance. Many thanks to Enchanter & friend (for the van), and SuperSixFour for a lot of help in the last few days! SuperSixFour drove all the way from Santa Cruz to pick us up from the hospital, and Enchanter picked me up from work, drove me to Sonoma to get the bike, dropped me off at work, and finally, dropped the bike off for me at Santa Clara Cycle Accessories for a repair estimate.

We were 4 people on 2 bikes (I was following), headed west on 12. We intended to turn left onto Trinity. A car was following at a good distance and had been for several miles.

When we came up on Trinity, there were several cars in the oncoming lane. We put on left turn blinkers and came to a stop so the cars could pass by. As my buddy (on the left) began his turn, I looked into the rear view to see it filling up with Pontiac :wtf and heard the screeching tires.

I immediately gunned it and took off, all of this having occurred in a straight line headed down 12. He struck us from behind at a pretty good speed, I would guess as high as 50 mph. I had achieved maybe 25 mph myself at the point of collision. My buddy had barely completed his turn and was missed by a few feet.

My girlfriend and I were thrown to either side of the bike. I did a Superman to the left, and she did a Reverse Superman to the right and ended up on her back with her right leg in between the pipe and the still spinning tire. I killed the engine and helped get her leg out. There were many people already out of their cars to help us by that point. We were both immediately walking and fully functional.

My gear:
Spidi Slider full leather suit with speed hump
Arai RX-7
Dainese aluminum honeycomb spine protection
Joe Rocket Spine Pad, flipped upside down and shoved down for lower spine and ass protection
Alpinestarts SMX+ boots
Alpinestars GP+ gloves with joined pinky and wrist pad

My girlfriend's gear:
Frank Thomas jacket
Icon Field Armor spine protection with chest plate
Arai Quantum 2
Leather (non-moto) calf-high boots
Jeans (non-moto)
Triumph all-weather gloves

My injuries:
None, sore neck the next day

My girlfriend's injuries:
Bruised coccyx (tailbone)
Minor abrasions and burns on right leg
Minor bruises on legs
Sore neck the next day

My 2002 Hayabusa's injuries:
TBD by Santa Clara Cycle Accessories. Appears to be repairable, but I will see what the guy's insurance has to say about fixing/totaling it.

She was taken via fire ambulance to Sonoma Valley Hospital to check out her tailbone. The x-rays came back looking good. I went with her, with the Sheriff saying that CHP would gather all info and meet us at the hospital.

Lessons learned:
1) DO NOT come to a stop without actively engaging the drivers behind you and gradually slowing down with them responding in turn.
2) If you don't have time to make your turn while following lesson 1, pull off to the side and do a U-turn when it's safe.
3) DO NOT just follow another rider and assume you're safe. Ride independently and be responsible for your own safety.
4) Gear your girlfriend up to the max, just like yourself.
5) Get the other persons insurance info yourself so you don't have to wait for the CHP report, even if they are telling you to go.
6) Check your six at all times!

Please let me know what I can do better to avoid repeating this. We are all incredibly lucky to be alive at this point!
 
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Audacious Nick

Predictably unpredictable
Change #6 to "Check all around at all times." You need to be aware of everything going around you.
Glad you two are not too badly hurt. It sucks when stuff like this happens.
 

masameet

Rawr!
Are the turn signals on your 'Busa stock?

Where on 12 did you turn on the left blinker?

What kind of a profile did you have your bike at in waiting to turn?

What colors are your respective helmets and gear?

What did the driver say after he/she pulled over (if he/she did)? That he/she just didn't see you or your turn signal?

Glad to read you two survived this nasty rear-ender. What a horribly scary thing to happen to you two. And your bike.

And huge Huzzahs to SuperSixFour and Enchanter for helping you! I remember reading your SOS! post in General hours after you posted it.

The times I have turned left onto Trinity from 12, I presented as narrow a profile as I could for drivers, as parallel to the DY as possible so cagers could easily pass me on the right. My left flasher would also have been blinking since I spotted the upcoming Trinity Rd. sign. (so about 100 yards?). But I suppose with an inattentive cager behind a rider, such precautions wouldn't matter. :(
 

Enchanter

Ghost in The Machine
Staff member
Are the turn signals on your 'Busa stock?

Yes, stock turn signals.
What kind of a profile did you have your bike at in waiting to turn?
Torrey was riding with another motorcycle. They were both stopped in the lane almost parallel to each other, with Torrey's bike towards the right of the center line. These two motorcycles make a pretty big object to miss. The driver of the car that hit them was very clearly driving HUA.

There is some conflicting thought when it comes to where to stop when turning. Some motorcyclists try to be as small of a target as possible, and stop on the side of the lane towards the direction they are turning. Others stop in the middle of the lane in an attempt to become more visible to the vehicles behind. They each have their merits. The correct technique is actually based on this situation at the time. I usually use a combination of the two.

This event has motivated me to finally install the tail-light modulator that I have had sitting in the cabinet in my garage for the last year. I doubt that I could have avoided this particular situation, but every little bit helps.
 

CYPHER1102

Well-known member
when stopping or slowing down in a freeway or any stop. if theres a car or bike behind following me i usually tap my brakes 3-5 times to get their attention and slowly squeeze it.
 
Where on 12 did you turn on the left blinker?

Headed East (I put 12W in the title, could a Mod change that to 12E?)
We saw our left on Trinity coming up and put on our blinkers several seconds before coming to a stop. I will definitely engage the drivers behind me next time.

What colors are your respective helmets and gear?

Me: Black helmet, red/black/white suit, black boots, white gloves.

Her: Black helmet, black jacket, blue jeans, brown boots, blue gloves.

This makes me want to get a full white suit. That would be better in the sun too.

What did the driver say after he/she pulled over (if he/she did)? That he/she just didn't see you or your turn signal?

The driver was pretty shaken up. He said he didn't see us stopping. I would tend to agree with him.
 

masameet

Rawr!
What time of day was this and where was the sun in relation to you and the driver who hit you?

Just too weird that somebody following you from a near distance could be so oblivious. [Sigh] Makes it seem we're all just waiting targets after all.

I tend to wear a red jacket ('Stich or leather) and my helmets are either bright yellow or have red and yellow highlights. My burgundy SV tends to melt into the scenery and I've been told that my black DRZ's bright red hand guards are noticeable, but only for cagers coming at me or riders riding away from me.
 
What time of day was this and where was the sun in relation to you and the driver who hit you?

the CHP report says that the accident occurred at 15:45. With us headed East at the time, we were slightly back lit. I think that means that he actually had ideal lighting, because the sun wouldn't have been low enough to get into his rear view mirror.
 

masameet

Rawr!
I imagine the sunlight would have been even at the time, because it was about 90 minutes to sunrise. So you would not have been backlit, as the sun's angle would have been to your right side as your bike and you faced southeast.

Yes, he should have seen you easily. As also have been aware of your presence beforehand as well. :(

Tim, I know how big 'Busas are. Rode pillion on one once.

We need to push for PSAs on tv, radio and theaters for people to pay attention to motorcycles and riders. Make the average cager see us as real instead of something on the road.
 

SuperSixFour

We don't rent pigs.
Me: Black helmet, red/black/white suit, black boots, white gloves.

Her: Black helmet, black jacket, blue jeans, brown boots, blue gloves.

This makes me want to get a full white suit. That would be better in the sun too.

I've been telling Torrey for years that black helmets are lame! :x I wear brightly colored helmets not so much for the attention whore factor as.... well, yeah, actually I do wear them for the attention whore factor! :teeth Better to have people notice me then not!

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Enchanter

Ghost in The Machine
Staff member
I've been telling Torrey for years that black helmets are lame! :x I wear brightly colored helmets not so much for the attention whore factor as.... well, yeah, actually I do wear them for the attention whore factor! :teeth Better to have people notice me then not!

Multi-colored helmets tend to blend into the background too. Brightly colored solid colored helmets are the ones that stand out.
 

Enchanter

Ghost in The Machine
Staff member
Tim, I know how big 'Busas are. Rode pillion on one once.

My comment wasn't meant to imply anything about your knowledge or the size of Torrey's Eye-abuser. I was trying to say that 2 motorcycles side by side, is a pretty big sight picture (compared to one).
 

2strokeYardSale

Moab on my mind
Get the other persons insurance info yourself so you don't have to wait for the CHP report, even if they are telling you to go.
Been there done that. Leave before you get arrested for obstruction of justice or interfering with the state or something. The report will be $8. Thank you, come again.
 

nweaver

Well-known member
I don't thing "Going ahead and do a U-turn" is an effective strategy.

Rather, just "watch your six": One second earlier and you would have only had to change your underwear rather than total your bike, given the huge acceleration of a modern bike.
 

ian408

Well-known member
I think some of the best measures are to keep a constant eye on the rear view as you are preparing to stop and while stopped. I know I am guilty of not doing this--and am often surprised when there's a car behind that I did not see--that could be the one that hits me next time. As you are preparing to stop, pulse the brake lever for the flashing brake light effect--if you can, replace the bulb with an LED version but beware that LEDs can have the effect of not being as bright when viewed off-axis (less than directly behind you).When you are stopped, keep the bike in gear at all times--there are very few times you can sit at a light or stop in neutral--combined with watching the rearview, this will keep you ready to get out of harms way. When you are stopped, pulse the brake lever to keep those behind you aware that you are there.

I should add that lane position might help. If you yield enough of the lane (right or left), that may allow a car that doesn't see you in time to go around.

It absolutely sucks to be hit whether it's from behind or head on or from the side. I've been hit in two of the three ways.
 
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