RVFRick
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Thanks, Budman! Looks like you're a neighbor. Meet up at Philz Middlefield once running
Reanimating a greybike RVF400 (NC35)
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Thanks, Budman! Looks like you're a neighbor. Meet up at Philz Middlefield once running
RVFRick
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Hey Maddevil, curious what ever happened to these bikes? track only, did they die or make their way to the street, parted out, etc. What stops you now from importing
Smash Allen
Banned
I would love to get my hands on a bike / project just like this, but will have to wait until the dirty bikes are sorted...love following along with the project :thumbup
nc30_rider
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I always hate removing the NC30's gas tank. The little clips are a bugger to get at and removing the fuel and vacuum hoses from the tank is a huge pain. Usually a 2 person job, one to hold the tank up and one to disconnect things.
RVFRick
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"Bugger" 'bout nails it. :thumbup
Maybe I can prop the tank or lift it with a ratchet strap to the rafters.
RVFRick
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Helmet lock cable
Sorry for being a noob but the last time I locked a helmet to a motorcycle was my Honda C70 when in college. And that lock was on the outside and had a sliding pin latch.
For the NC35, I call the bicycle brake cable looking thing (stranded metal cable with black plastic coated cable jacketing) is for the rear seat lock release mechanism. This I understand.
The other is bare thin cable. 8" in length and the ends are looped and crimped. Both of these end loops are fastened to the seat frame by a single screw. How the does this work as a helmet lock? Is one of the loops supposed to be free and dangling outside the seat so I can use a separate pad lock to lock a helmet to it? Or do I leave the cable as-is, open the seat, chin strap my helmet in place then close the seat?
Guess I can try it when the time comes. Now where did I put my helmet....?
Sorry for being a noob but the last time I locked a helmet to a motorcycle was my Honda C70 when in college. And that lock was on the outside and had a sliding pin latch.
For the NC35, I call the bicycle brake cable looking thing (stranded metal cable with black plastic coated cable jacketing) is for the rear seat lock release mechanism. This I understand.
The other is bare thin cable. 8" in length and the ends are looped and crimped. Both of these end loops are fastened to the seat frame by a single screw. How the does this work as a helmet lock? Is one of the loops supposed to be free and dangling outside the seat so I can use a separate pad lock to lock a helmet to it? Or do I leave the cable as-is, open the seat, chin strap my helmet in place then close the seat?
Guess I can try it when the time comes. Now where did I put my helmet....?
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ScottRNelson
Mr. Dual Sport Rider
Ducati used something like that with the Monster. You loop the cable through the helmet D-ring, then through one of the loops and pull it tight. Hopefully it will then reach to whatever sticks up under the seat to hold your helmet in place.
My KTM has one of those little cables in the tool kit, but I haven't figured out what to hook it to under the seat. My XR650L has the regular lock on the side near the back of the seat that slips through the D-ring. Difficult to get any of my helmets locked with that, since the D-ring doesn't come out very far from the helmet.
Krooklyn
Usual Suspect
For the helmet cable (which you don't seem to have), but if you did it would attach as below. One of the loops would go around the bar (circled) and would be kept closed the rear seat.
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Crom
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They are just a reseller of marked up Tyga stuff. Definitely buy directly from Tyga and save a ton of money. Jap4Performance is a waste unless you live in the U.K. and need parts quick.
RVFRick
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Good to know. We have an office in Cambridge, England. Someone travels back and forth at least once a quarter. I might be able to sweet talk some favors if necessary.
RVFRick
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Oh, but I do have a cable.
My cable has two end loops.
Each loop has a ring lug.
Both lugs are mounted to the same screw.
I will try your suggestion when I can.
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RVFRick
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Session 9: More storage deals + one more fuel hose
Gorgeous weather and productive Saturday. Jessica and started out late to, you guessed it, Philz Coffee mid-town Palo Alto. We order the usual Tesora,medium/medium. Jessica orders her typical almond croissant. I deviate and try the tomato cucumber bagel. Bad call, too much cream cheese for my tastes. :thumbdown
We relax at an outside table and share the newspaper. More like real-estate circular thinly disguised as a news.
Plan for the morning is the Palo Alto flea market at the local high school. We’re regulars and enjoy making the rounds chatting with the sellers who come every 2nd Saturday of each month. It’s fun to window shop but we don’t buy much anymore unless we come across something too good to pass up. Today is one of those days. I scored a Hilti metal wall cabinet that looks like it came from a store display. $10.artyarty
I figure it will help organize the shop. I walk the whole market in search of tools and tool cabinets. Someone has a used Dremel with a boat load of attachments. I balk at the $60 asking price.:wtf I don't bother to counter offer. Jessica buys an armload of scarves for cheap and a cashmere sweater for $2. Score!
I see a beat-up tool cabinet that has seen better days. Light rust and faded paint I consider whether it can be made serviceable. Jessica says she wouldn’t take it for free. I briefly consider negotiating down the $40 price tag. Jessica is right, it belongs in a dumpster. Really.
Our 90 minutes of treasure hunting over we drive off to the Mountain View garage to drop off the metal cabinet. One mile into the six mile drive we spy a garage sale sign. We follow the signs to check it out. :ride
It looks like the seller is still setting up - pulling new stuff out onto the driveway. I dig through some boxes and find a brand new bicycle inner tube in a box. “How much” I ask holding it up for the owner to see. “Oh it’s a 26 inch tube. Sorry, it’s not for sale I need it.” Oh well.
While I rummaging though a box of generic house tools, I over hear a guy inquire on the price of a beat up Craftsman worm-drive circular saw. I figure $20, $25 max. The seller has a laptop and checks the price online: “It goes for $180 new,” she says. “How about $70? That’s almost 2/3rds off”. :wtf I’m thinking, whoa, that’s pricey for a garage sale. Guy ponders and says “Hmm, I’ll think about it.” Good call, dude.
Anyways, Jessica is ready to go and I don’t find anything. As we are walking away, for some reason I casually turn around and ask, “You wouldn’t happen to have a tool cabinet for sale would you?” “As a matter of fact I do!” she excitedly replies. “Follow me!”
We go to the side yard and I see a glossy red Craftsman two-piece roller cabinet sparking in the sunlight. :wow:wow
Not a POS like the flea market one. It’s in really good shape, roller bearings, individually self-latching drawers, rubber lined, and lots of drawers. No keys or tools but that's okay.
Feigning disinterest, "Whoa, that's bigger than I need", I say. “How much are you asking?".
She says “Oh, I don’t know. Make me and offer?”
I pause a little too long and she says, “oh, do you want me to look it up?” She walks back to the front. I blew it, if she checks online she’s going to be asking $125-150 or more.
I regroup then walk out to the driveway. Another customer has distracted her with questions about a waffle iron. Before she remembers to get to her laptop I say, “How about $60?” She gives me hard look for 10 seconds in silence. Awkward. She breaks, “oh, alright, $60 sounds good."
Whew!!! Jessica takes a picture for posterity and we load up the minivan with our bounty. I love my Honda minivan!
We finally get to Mountain View and I spend the next hour wiping, washing, cleaning, rubbing, and polishing the fire-engine red tool chests and wall cabinet. It’s satisfying work but, damn, when do I get to work on the bike?
I spend the rest of the afternoon cataloging my 30 years of tool collecting into like groups. Allen wrenches, drivers, pliers, cutters, metrology, drills, putty knives, Torx, etc. There's more than I expected.
It takes several hours to sort though the assortment. I come across a lot of stuff I didn’t even know I had. My plier and screw driver collection is especially absurd. Like a squirrel I stored multiples of everything throughout my world and now that they are all together it’s ridiculous. I should have bought a cabinet years ago. In any case, I now have a place to house my collection. I think I need to return a bunch of the redundant Harbor Freight stuff I bought last week.
I spend an inordinate amount of time marking my drivers with a Sharpie. Phillips, Torx, slotted, hex, etc. I try to make them recognizable at a glance. For the most part I think I succeeded. For the coup de grace, I’ll have to come back with my favorite Brother labelling machine to mark the drawers.
By now it’s 6:30pm! and I finally get the cabinets all squared away… at least as a first attempt it’ll have to do. Time to get to the RVF gas tank for crying out load!
For the past two days I’ve been itching to get to the gas lines. Other tasks kept getting in the way. Now I have time.
I prop up the tank as far as I can with a short length of PVC pipe I find laying around. (my earlier ratchet tie-down hoist idea now sounds ridiculous :thumbdown). The white pipe is a perfect fit as it pulls the hoses taught and is soft enough so as to not mar any paint.:thumbup
I try to reach my hand in the narrow gap and pull hard on the drain line. Damn thing won’t budge! I pull harder. Then really hard! Strettttccccch that sucker! Nothing. What the heck!!!!
This isn’t rocket science. I go to the right side of the bike and look at the stopcock lines. I also pull hard on both lines but nothing moves. Seriously!?! Time for some thinking. I am too weak. How to apply more force. Pliers? Slit the rubber with a razor? Hmm, how about prying it off with a screwdriver.?
Grab medium sized flat blade driver. Place between stopcock housing and end of tube. Gently twist and pry. Move around tube and pry. Hey! Its moving! A few more spots and careful not to gouge any metal and voila it’s off!!!!
Damn! Finally, a technique that works! Pat self on back. Just then Jessica walks up and says we gotta go home. I so want to finish this now but she’s been extremely patient and wants to eat. She'll be "hangry" soon. Best quickly lock up. I wheel everything into the garage and secure the fort.
We head home to pick up the girls and go out to a well deserved dinner. I got grease under my nails. It's been a long time and it feels good. "Gross, Dad!" says youngest daughter. :laughing
I’m tired but it was a full day of satisfying work. Made some great buys, tamed a large percentage of my tool horde, and came up with a technique to slip off stubborn fuel lines. A good day. 2 hoses free, two more to go.
Gorgeous weather and productive Saturday. Jessica and started out late to, you guessed it, Philz Coffee mid-town Palo Alto. We order the usual Tesora,medium/medium. Jessica orders her typical almond croissant. I deviate and try the tomato cucumber bagel. Bad call, too much cream cheese for my tastes. :thumbdown
We relax at an outside table and share the newspaper. More like real-estate circular thinly disguised as a news.
Plan for the morning is the Palo Alto flea market at the local high school. We’re regulars and enjoy making the rounds chatting with the sellers who come every 2nd Saturday of each month. It’s fun to window shop but we don’t buy much anymore unless we come across something too good to pass up. Today is one of those days. I scored a Hilti metal wall cabinet that looks like it came from a store display. $10.
artyartyI figure it will help organize the shop. I walk the whole market in search of tools and tool cabinets. Someone has a used Dremel with a boat load of attachments. I balk at the $60 asking price.:wtf I don't bother to counter offer. Jessica buys an armload of scarves for cheap and a cashmere sweater for $2. Score!
I see a beat-up tool cabinet that has seen better days. Light rust and faded paint I consider whether it can be made serviceable. Jessica says she wouldn’t take it for free. I briefly consider negotiating down the $40 price tag. Jessica is right, it belongs in a dumpster. Really.
Our 90 minutes of treasure hunting over we drive off to the Mountain View garage to drop off the metal cabinet. One mile into the six mile drive we spy a garage sale sign. We follow the signs to check it out. :ride
It looks like the seller is still setting up - pulling new stuff out onto the driveway. I dig through some boxes and find a brand new bicycle inner tube in a box. “How much” I ask holding it up for the owner to see. “Oh it’s a 26 inch tube. Sorry, it’s not for sale I need it.” Oh well.
While I rummaging though a box of generic house tools, I over hear a guy inquire on the price of a beat up Craftsman worm-drive circular saw. I figure $20, $25 max. The seller has a laptop and checks the price online: “It goes for $180 new,” she says. “How about $70? That’s almost 2/3rds off”. :wtf I’m thinking, whoa, that’s pricey for a garage sale. Guy ponders and says “Hmm, I’ll think about it.” Good call, dude.
Anyways, Jessica is ready to go and I don’t find anything. As we are walking away, for some reason I casually turn around and ask, “You wouldn’t happen to have a tool cabinet for sale would you?” “As a matter of fact I do!” she excitedly replies. “Follow me!”
We go to the side yard and I see a glossy red Craftsman two-piece roller cabinet sparking in the sunlight. :wow:wow
Not a POS like the flea market one. It’s in really good shape, roller bearings, individually self-latching drawers, rubber lined, and lots of drawers. No keys or tools but that's okay.
Feigning disinterest, "Whoa, that's bigger than I need", I say. “How much are you asking?".
She says “Oh, I don’t know. Make me and offer?”
I pause a little too long and she says, “oh, do you want me to look it up?” She walks back to the front. I blew it, if she checks online she’s going to be asking $125-150 or more.
I regroup then walk out to the driveway. Another customer has distracted her with questions about a waffle iron. Before she remembers to get to her laptop I say, “How about $60?” She gives me hard look for 10 seconds in silence. Awkward. She breaks, “oh, alright, $60 sounds good."
Whew!!! Jessica takes a picture for posterity and we load up the minivan with our bounty. I love my Honda minivan!
We finally get to Mountain View and I spend the next hour wiping, washing, cleaning, rubbing, and polishing the fire-engine red tool chests and wall cabinet. It’s satisfying work but, damn, when do I get to work on the bike?
I spend the rest of the afternoon cataloging my 30 years of tool collecting into like groups. Allen wrenches, drivers, pliers, cutters, metrology, drills, putty knives, Torx, etc. There's more than I expected.
It takes several hours to sort though the assortment. I come across a lot of stuff I didn’t even know I had. My plier and screw driver collection is especially absurd. Like a squirrel I stored multiples of everything throughout my world and now that they are all together it’s ridiculous. I should have bought a cabinet years ago. In any case, I now have a place to house my collection. I think I need to return a bunch of the redundant Harbor Freight stuff I bought last week.
I spend an inordinate amount of time marking my drivers with a Sharpie. Phillips, Torx, slotted, hex, etc. I try to make them recognizable at a glance. For the most part I think I succeeded. For the coup de grace, I’ll have to come back with my favorite Brother labelling machine to mark the drawers.
By now it’s 6:30pm! and I finally get the cabinets all squared away… at least as a first attempt it’ll have to do. Time to get to the RVF gas tank for crying out load!
For the past two days I’ve been itching to get to the gas lines. Other tasks kept getting in the way. Now I have time.
I prop up the tank as far as I can with a short length of PVC pipe I find laying around. (my earlier ratchet tie-down hoist idea now sounds ridiculous :thumbdown). The white pipe is a perfect fit as it pulls the hoses taught and is soft enough so as to not mar any paint.:thumbup
I try to reach my hand in the narrow gap and pull hard on the drain line. Damn thing won’t budge! I pull harder. Then really hard! Strettttccccch that sucker! Nothing. What the heck!!!!
This isn’t rocket science. I go to the right side of the bike and look at the stopcock lines. I also pull hard on both lines but nothing moves. Seriously!?! Time for some thinking. I am too weak. How to apply more force. Pliers? Slit the rubber with a razor? Hmm, how about prying it off with a screwdriver.?
Grab medium sized flat blade driver. Place between stopcock housing and end of tube. Gently twist and pry. Move around tube and pry. Hey! Its moving! A few more spots and careful not to gouge any metal and voila it’s off!!!!
Damn! Finally, a technique that works! Pat self on back. Just then Jessica walks up and says we gotta go home. I so want to finish this now but she’s been extremely patient and wants to eat. She'll be "hangry" soon. Best quickly lock up. I wheel everything into the garage and secure the fort.
We head home to pick up the girls and go out to a well deserved dinner. I got grease under my nails. It's been a long time and it feels good. "Gross, Dad!" says youngest daughter. :laughing
I’m tired but it was a full day of satisfying work. Made some great buys, tamed a large percentage of my tool horde, and came up with a technique to slip off stubborn fuel lines. A good day. 2 hoses free, two more to go.
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Stuck rubber hoses can sometimes be freed up by pushing them farther ON whatever they are stuck to. Pulling males them clamp down like finger cuffs
Krooklyn
Usual Suspect
You don't have the cable for the helmet. I was showing how it would be routed if you had it. The cable you have attaches to the pillion seat. Someone must have unscrewed it from the seat and just fastened both cable ends to the subframe.
ScottRNelson
Mr. Dual Sport Rider
I was waiting to do that, then had the insight that if I just used Scotch Tape (must be the Magic Tape), I could write on it with a black sharpie. Way faster than using a labeling machine, and easy to peel off and replace with something else if you decide something different goes in a particular drawer.
As for screwdrivers, if you have too many, then you won't feel bad about using one in place of a crowbar or a chisel. :laughing
RVFRick
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:dunno:
I went to CMSNL and found what looks to be what I but missing the black covering (I think you mentioned this way back). I can add some plastic or rubber hose to mine to make it friendlier.
I studied your earlier photo. Last try: one end screwed the other hooked or some how attached to the seat. I thread it through he D-rings of my helmet and replace the seat thus securing my helmet. Is that it? If not, I tap out and hope to be enlightened in person one day by you or someone knowing :laughing
https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-rvf400r...198/wire-helmet-set_77236mr8000/#.WRkG6lKZORs
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Krooklyn
Usual Suspect
Yeah, basically.