Pikes Peak - no more moto’s.

[RightCoastBias]

No Pikes Peak For Motorcycles 2020

PPIHC has always been a shit organization. Here is a continuation of their legacy.

https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/no-motorcycles-2020-pikes-peak-international-hill-climb/

 

[budman]

Well none in 2020.

Not sure if that will change. I doubt they can make it safer.

I know Carlin would be pissed that his death might lead to no more ever.
He lived and loved racing there.

 

[FXCLM5]

Hope they bring it back in 2021 in honor of him

 

[Map8]

On the other hand, the PPIHC organizers also knew Carlin Dunne are likely very upset by his death. Its their prerogative if they feel the track is too dangerous for motorcycles. I'm sure they don't want to see Rennie Scaysbrook or Chris Fillmore or any of the other motorcycle racers get killed.

There are closed course race tracks that are too dangerous for motorcycles. Its not a conspiracy against motorcycling but just an acknowledgement that the possibility of loss of life has become too great.

FWIW, I attended the Pikes Peak Hill Climb as a kid. I still have a Pikes Peak Hill Climb race program Bobby Unser signed for me. My dad was a casual but life long friend with auto racer Nick Sanborn who is in the Colorado Motorsports Hall of Fame and I remember going to his house when I was a kid and he would start up his race car so I could hear the engine (open-piped V8!). I've helped sponsor a motorcycle racer who competed at Pikes Peak. I think the event is fantastic but I understand times change.

 

[HadesOmega]

Wow I think one of the things that draws people to Pikes Peak is the danger. I got to ride it myself in the DR at normal speeds and to do it at speed brings it to a new level of dangerous.

 

[HadesOmega]

but that history ignores the fact that paving the road to the summit of Pikes Peak has substantially changed the race, especially for motorcycles, which has led to an increase in injuries and fatalities.

I don't believe that imagine if you were to race it old school in the dirt I think it would be even more dangerous. Probably wouldn't be going as fast but you'd be flying into the corners sideways roosting every corner.

 

[Bumpits]

I don't believe that imagine if you were to race it old school in the dirt I think it would be even more dangerous. Probably wouldn't be going as fast but you'd be flying into the corners sideways roosting every corner.

Agreed, but in other articles Jensen seems to know more about how Carlin died, so maybe he thinks dirt would've saved him. Idfk honestly.

I'm just surprised PPIHC moved so fast to kick out bikes. Northern ireland road racing has been on the way out thanks to rising costs of insurance for a while, like we think it's got 5-10 years left before it's over, so I thought along the same timeframe for pikes peak. The suits noped that with the quickness.

 

[budman]

It is a bummer that insurance due to danger can kill some classic events. Motorcycle racing is dangerous. Real road racing events, Pikes Peak, Macau.... Isle of Man??

Let men and women race at their own risk. Pretty much every race is at your own risk. Some folks are willing to risk more. Society should not dictate risk. That is what is happening.

It will continue to cascade to other events.

Racers don’t sign up because it is safe. They sign up because it is a challenge and they are will to risk their lives to accept the challenge.

Much respect to those that challenge life within their passion for it.

 

[WWWobble]

On the other hand, the PPIHC organizers also knew Carlin Dunne are likely very upset by his death. Its their prerogative if they feel the track is too dangerous for motorcycles. I'm sure they don't want to see Rennie Scaysbrook or Chris Fillmore or any of the other motorcycle racers get killed.

There are closed course race tracks that are too dangerous for motorcycles. Its not a conspiracy against motorcycling but just an acknowledgement that the possibility of loss of life has become too great.

+1. Bikes are getting much faster. IOM comes to mind as well.

 

[FreeRyde]

+1. Bikes are getting much faster. IOM comes to mind as well.

We should just stop riding all together cause bikes are getting faster. Yeah, that makes sense.

 

[bikewanker]

Thank goodness we’ve moved beyond the thought police to the necessary action to save us from ourselves!

 

[Bumpits]

That's how the law is written. You as an event organizer have a legal responsibility to the safety of motorcycle racers. Either we face facts, and make it legal for event organizers to host events where motorcycle racers eventually kill themselves, or postpone motorcycle racing indefinitely until event organizers can prevent any and all loss of life. In the meantime we can see if PPIHC's will let us crowdfund their event insurance, but that's just a multi-million dollar bandaid.

 

[clutchslip]

That's how the law is written. You as an event organizer have a legal responsibility to the safety of motorcycle racers. Either we face facts, and make it legal for event organizers to host events where motorcycle racers eventually kill themselves, or postpone motorcycle racing indefinitely until event organizers can prevent any and all loss of life. In the meantime we can see if PPIHC's will let us crowdfund their event insurance, but that's just a multi-million dollar bandaid.

What law are you talking about? Your link is to a movie trailer.

I find it amazing that more people haven't died on that hill, whether in a car or on a motorcycle. When it was dirt, it was pretty gnarly to be sliding around with death drops on the outside of the curves. Puckered my pecker, anyway.

It's only been paved since 2010-11? And the motorcycles have been there for a very long time.

1926: The famed Unser family begins racing, with three brothers taking a motorcycle and side car up the mountain.

(Can't you meld these threads, Bud?)

 

[Map8]

Threads merged.

 

[WWWobble]

Thank goodness we’ve moved beyond the thought police to the necessary action to save us from ourselves!

We should just stop riding all together cause bikes are getting faster. Yeah, that makes sense.

Panties in a twist guys?

Fatalities in motorsports are never a good thing. Kenny Roberts certainly made that clear years ago and MotoGP tracks, and many others have improved because of his efforts.

What we don't have are very many (or any?) safe (or somewhat safe) road race circuits for bikes, by that I mean "street race" type venues. I'd like to see that, because I'm not a member of the thought police and I am a motorsports enthusiast, and I DO support IOM and Pikes Peak type events.

 

[Bumpits]

What we don't have are very many (or any?) safe (or somewhat safe) road race circuits for bikes, by that I mean "street race" type venue

I don't think that's a thing.

What law are you talking about?

The ones that say people can't die at your event.

 

[clutchslip]

The ones that say people can't die at your event.

Oh, the made-up in your head laws. Gotcha.

 

[Bumpits]

Oh, the made-up in your head laws. Gotcha.

Do you need a hug?

 

[RightCoastBias]

The ones that say people can't die at your event.

Are you referring to negligence/gross negligence?

Otherwise, what specific law are you referring to?

 

[nebulous]

Cars should stop participating in the Hill Climb, people might die, and everyone should get a participation Trophy.

Pikes Peak Hill Walk? Competition Kills !!!