Passing on a double yellow

[DrDave]

What is the law regarding passing on a double yellow (one side broken)? Does the pass need to be completed while the broken line is still on your side or can you start a pass while its broken and legally finish the pass after it becomes solid?

 

[JPM]

Pass must be completed before double yellow starts.

 

[DrDave]

Is there a section in the CVC that states that? The only section I could find seems to indicate that you can cross to pass, doesn't say anything else on the topic.

Double Lines
21460. (a) When double parallel solid lines are in place, no person driving a vehicle shall drive to the left thereof, except as permitted in this section.

(b) When the double parallel lines, one of which is broken, are in place, no person driving a vehicle shall drive to the left thereof, except as follows:

(1) That the driver on that side of the roadway in which the broken line is in place may cross over the double line or drive to the left thereof when overtaking or passing other vehicles.

 

[JPM]

Yes, this section that you posted: (a) When double parallel solid lines are in place, no person driving a vehicle shall drive to the left thereof, except as permitted in this section.

It does not say if you start before the double line you are ok, it says you can not drive to the left of. Pretty clear and to the point if you ask me.

 

[Ed.]

No judge expects you to be a prophet, if you start the pass while you are legal and can not be found guilty of seeing into the future while paying attention to the road before you and the automobile you are overtaking, rest assured you are acting legally, and should not be cited. But there are those that.........

 

[Ed.]

Remember that police officers are not the law, they are merely the liaison between the public they serve to protect and the Judge that presides over the case concerning those that have been accused of breaking the law. If you choose to educate yourself with regards to the law you have all the ammunition you need to effectively defend yourself. The law is no secret, all its mystery resides in books one can acquaint themselves with at their public library.
A cop needs a highschool diploma, no special skill set. They mistaken themselves as THE LAW far to often.
Protect yourself, they are not the law, just the appointed go-between filling the void between you and your right to have your case heard by a Judge.

 

[Rel]

A cop needs a highschool diploma, no special skill set.

Then apply, and take a beat.

 

[Ed.]

And quit my job turnin' tricks....playa please?

 

[arnoha]

No judge expects you to be a prophet, if you start the pass while you are legal and can not be found guilty of seeing into the future while paying attention to the road before you and the automobile you are overtaking, rest assured you are acting legally, and should not be cited. But there are those that.........

Nope, no judge expects you to be a prophet...but they do expect that you are paying attention and looking! If you can't see to the end of your pass, how could you possibly make a safe pass? In fact, you need to see roughly double the distance of your pass before you start! Remember that traffic in the other lane will travel about as far as you will during the pass. So, your argument is more than a bit silly.

 

[arnoha]

Remember that police officers are not the law, they are merely the liaison between the public they serve to protect and the Judge that presides over the case concerning those that have been accused of breaking the law. If you choose to educate yourself with regards to the law you have all the ammunition you need to effectively defend yourself. The law is no secret, all its mystery resides in books one can acquaint themselves with at their public library.
A cop needs a highschool diploma, no special skill set. They mistaken themselves as THE LAW far to often.
Protect yourself, they are not the law, just the appointed go-between filling the void between you and your right to have your case heard by a Judge.

Okay, which one of you officers is being the joker and putting up this straw man? Come on now, it's more than a little transparent! :laughing Remember, more than one account is against the TOS!

 

[silversvs]

Okay, which one of you officers is being the joker and putting up this straw man? Come on now, it's more than a little transparent! :laughing Remember, more than one account is against the TOS!

You're giving us too much credit. :laughing

We have a new troll.

 

[Don Tuite]

Don't forget the part about not going faster than the speed limit while passing.

Don

 

[Peptile]

I am going to piggy back on this thread and ask a question about lane sharing/passing.

Got a ticket today for speeding and failure to drive on the right side. Here is the situation; riding with a group of 2 other people, when we took off from the starting location I was in the back. As we got going my friend signaled for me to move to the front and both of the other moto's moved to the right. I speed up and passed them on the left without crossing the double yellow line (might have touched it once but never went fully over it).

Got pulled over and snagged with both like I mentioned above. Is it worth fighting the 'failure to drive on the right side' if I feel I was just lane sharing?

 

[NorCalBusa]

Remember that police officers are not the law, they are merely the liaison between the public they serve to protect and the Judge that presides over the case concerning those that have been accused of breaking the law. If you choose to educate yourself with regards to the law you have all the ammunition you need to effectively defend yourself. The law is no secret, all its mystery resides in books one can acquaint themselves with at their public library.
A cop needs a highschool diploma, no special skill set. They mistaken themselves as THE LAW far to often.
Protect yourself, they are not the law, just the appointed go-between filling the void between you and your right to have your case heard by a Judge.

But since they have badges, guns, OC spray, Tasers and fifty of their best buddies a radio call away- I think I'll just go with the flow...

 

[mlm]

Yes, this section that you posted: (a) When double parallel solid lines are in place, no person driving a vehicle shall drive to the left thereof, except as permitted in this section.

It does not say if you start before the double line you are ok, it says you can not drive to the left of. Pretty clear and to the point if you ask me.

Section says never drive to the left of a DOUBLE yellow EXCEPT as permitted.

If the exception isn't because you started a legal pass, then I'm curious what the exception would be?

 

[Amandyke]

That language is just a precursor to potential amendments to the law. If that is the entire section that as posted, and they didn't list the exception. Then there is no exception. Do not be on the left side of the solid double line.

 

[donjumpsuit]

passing is bullshit,
I don't understand how they make so many roadways with passing (hashed) lines, and don't expect you to go over the speed limit during the execution of the pass.


If you take into account the speed limit of the road, and the length (opportunity) you have to pass, it almost never makes sense that you could overtake another vehicle travelling at 10mph lower than the posted limit, in enough time.

Passing seems to have been grandfathered into law when farm trucks and horses shared the road.

 

[donjumpsuit]

I am going to piggy back on this thread and ask a question about lane sharing/passing.

Got a ticket today for speeding and failure to drive on the right side. Here is the situation; riding with a group of 2 other people, when we took off from the starting location I was in the back. As we got going my friend signaled for me to move to the front and both of the other moto's moved to the right. I speed up and passed them on the left without crossing the double yellow line (might have touched it once but never went fully over it).

Got pulled over and snagged with both like I mentioned above. Is it worth fighting the 'failure to drive on the right side' if I feel I was just lane sharing?

Don't try to fight it. It is illegal to ride side by side in California. Back in the days of "Easy Rider" you could ride side by side, but no more. The cop was just busting your chops for riding side by side, and writing tickets to cite you for that fact.

 

[}Dragon{]

Section says never drive to the left of a DOUBLE yellow EXCEPT as permitted.

If the exception isn't because you started a legal pass, then I'm curious what the exception would be?

Lawful direction by Peace Officer, Firefighter or roadcrew flagger...

 

[ALANRIDER7]

No judge expects you to be a prophet, if you start the pass while you are legal and can not be found guilty of seeing into the future while paying attention to the road before you and the automobile you are overtaking, rest assured you are acting legally, and should not be cited. But there are those that.........

:hand

:laughing :laughing :laughing

You've got to be kidding.

You can't start a pass with only 20 feet of broken yellow on your side just because you feel like it.

You should be paying attention and giving yourself enough cushion so that your pass is safely finished before the double yellow starts. The judge is going to tell you that your crystal ball needs a tune up. Then he'll throw the book at you. Deservedly so.

Duh.