New Job!!!

[insyder]

I'm leaving the Oracle DBA world and moving on to a new job working for the Information Security Officer at a new department!

Hopefully this will include gaining at least a CISSP and/or CBCP cert. It's a different line of work for me and I know I will initially be doing things along the lines of writing department infosec policy rather than flat out technical work.

Anyone else in this field have any info/chime in? Paging Sane_man...

 

[Warrior Princess]

I'm leaving the Oracle DBA world and moving on to a new job working for the Information Security Officer at a new department!

Hopefully this will include gaining at least a CISSP and/or CBCP cert. It's a different line of work for me and I know I will initially be doing things along the lines of writing department infosec policy rather than flat out technical work.

Anyone else in this field have any info/chime in? Paging Sane_man...

Congrats. Hope you enjoy. I am just starting a new job too as an accountant software consultant. Hopefully it is the start of a good year for us. :teeth

 

[Volcomism]

I worked within Info Security for WaMu. I liked it.. I did more of the Government compliance side of things (SOX, GLBA) more than I did any of the hardware. But I'd love to get back into it if I could.

From what I heard.. The test for CISSP caught alot of people off-guard and most had to take it a 2nd time.

 

[F4iChic]

Traitor

congrats tho if that's what you wanna do

(fingers crossed for me, not gonna say what just yet tho :shhh)

 

[ryan@fosho.org]

Cool job man.

What are the specific job requirements?
I really wanted to head down this path. I went and got the CompTIA security+ certification (also A+, Net+, Linux+).

My current job is supporting customers with VoIP call centers and SIP trunking, but internet security, and local security definitely has greater interest... plus better money I'm sure!

I'm going back to continue school... Try to get CISSP certified. Has any one taken this exam? I bet it's hard, the Security+ exam took me more than 1 attempt.

 

[insyder]

Traitor

congrats tho if that's what you wanna do

(fingers crossed for me, not gonna say what just yet tho :shhh)

Thanks, Wendy!

Working for the state and it's archaic hiring/promotion process, the method is "move on to move up." And let me tell you if the Austrian continues with his state worker reach around I'll be "moving out to move up."

On another side of things, the DBA gig was cool and I learned alot, but compared to other things I've done quite boring. Developer/analyst work brought the challenges of requirements analysis, actual coding, testing, implementation, follow up, support, etc. Lots of hands on, lots of producing a product and interacting with the client departments/agencies. DBAs "keep the lights on." No glory there. :laughing

Didn't think I'd move into InfoSec, but I'm looking forward. My role looks to be less technical but hopefully with time, persistence and pestering hopefully I can move into auditing, testing or other more technical stuff again.

More than anything I'm pretty stoked to move into a new arena and make myself more rounded.

Best of luck to you on your mysterious prospect! :thumbup

Cool job man.

What are the specific job requirements?
I really wanted to head down this path. I went and got the CompTIA security+ certification (also A+, Net+, Linux+).

My current job is supporting customers with VoIP call centers and SIP trunking, but internet security, and local security definitely has greater interest... plus better money I'm sure!

I'm going back to continue school... Try to get CISSP certified. Has any one taken this exam? I bet it's hard, the Security+ exam took me more than 1 attempt.

Specific requirements for what I'll be doing surround overseeing department policy that complies with state policy and procedures. It is gub'ment, so we need to protect the fine taxpayers confidential information.

My best advice is if you don't have it yet, finish your BS in whatever you're majoring in. Just get it done. It's a minimum in a lot of job opportunities.

Me personally I don't have it, but have an AS in programming and networking from a local community college. But work and family life prevents me from taking the time to go back to college. And to be honest at this point in my career I see little educational value in returning to school. So get your education knocked out while you're working at the entry/help desk level in IT related work.

You're on a good track experience wise. IMHO, certs are good but are no comparison to a good body of work and experience.

 

[timsar4]

I'm leaving the Oracle DBA world and moving on to a new job working for the Information Security Officer at a new department!

Hopefully this will include gaining at least a CISSP and/or CBCP cert. It's a different line of work for me and I know I will initially be doing things along the lines of writing department infosec policy rather than flat out technical work.

Anyone else in this field have any info/chime in? Paging Sane_man...

Congrad on your new role. You are going to enjoy this transition. It will allow you to integrate all component of security, business, and technical combined.

As for the CISSP, you might want to be proactive in getting yourself ready for the material and exam. If your budget allows attend Shon Harris CISSP Boot Camp. It is by far the most informative training you can use in order to get prepared for the exam. Also, be advised ISC2 is about to announce v9 of the training materials and also the test within the next few months.

Lastly, consider joining a local ISSA and or ISACA chapter. They have a very extensive knowledge pool which you can tap into.

BTW-I am CAP, CISSP, CISA, CISM, ITIL, QSA, PMP, and CPM certified. Feel free to PM me if you should any question.

G/L:thumbup

 

[F4iChic]

yer welcome B :thumbup

My thing isn't mysterious, I just don't want to tempt fate by saying too much at the moment :shhh

on the gubmint topic, I went for an interview at a gubmint place the other day (shall remain nameless to protect their stupidity, oops, I mean identity :rofl)

this is how the conversation went:

Me: So, I'm intrigued to know the reason behind deciding to build a new timesheet processing application as opposed to buying one of the many out there on the shelf
Senior Development Manager: Oh, we aren't building it
Me: Oh I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood my phone interview, I thought you were building a system
SDM: Well, we aren't building it, the VENDOR is, or they will tell us to buy one, we don't know what we are doing yet

I hope I did an inside head :rolleyes :rofl

I don't really want this gig, I want the other :shhh one

fingers crossed for me please

 

[insyder]

...this is how the conversation went:

Me: So, I'm intrigued to know the reason behind deciding to build a new timesheet processing application as opposed to buying one of the many out there on the shelf
Senior Development Manager: Oh, we aren't building it
Me: Oh I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood my phone interview, I thought you were building a system
SDM: Well, we aren't building it, the VENDOR is, or they will tell us to buy one, we don't know what we are doing yet

:laughing

In my experience with ERPs in government usually it is a COTS application suite/package. However, many of the modules have to be heavily customized to accomodate government business methods, needs and legal compliance. It's nuts some of the crap we have to do because it's "legislated."

That manager sound like he communicated with the skill of a retarded chimp, but I understand what he was probably trying to say. This is likely from my years of overexposure to this type of management staff. Kind of depressing, really.

 

[F4iChic]

it was a she :rofl

what are you, a damned sexist

I won't get this gig anyway, cos they asked me what salary I want, and told me the range. I told them I needed the number at the top of the range. (which is still less than I was being paid at that shitty higher ed cheapass place I used to work at)

 

[F4iChic]

:shhh

ding ding, round two

just got a callback to go in for round two of three tomorrow :thumbup

I only had the initial interview yesterday so to get called in for another go round tomorrow is freakin awesome

um, I haven't worn a dress in like, freakin donkeys years. Is it ok to go for an interview in a dress :confused (I don't wanna be viewed as a girlie flashing legs)

And, is it ok to wear bright red shoes to an interview? When I went yesterday I wore black pants, white shirt, black cardigan and deep deep red shoes, but tomorrow if I wear a black dress I was thinking of wearing my bright red sandals, I want to show serious with a fun side

why the f00k am I asking you lot this :rofl

Guess I am happy about being called back for round two and I'm a bit giddy :loco

guess I'll go in black pants and black shoes. Or gold :toothless (joke)

 

[insyder]

...why the f00k am I asking you lot this :rofl

Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead at an interview in a dress with red shoes. But that's just me.

Best of luck to you, Wendy! :thumbup


Hopefully this turns into a thread about people that can get a job/promotion regardless of a deep recession! :thumbup

 

[F4iChic]

Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead at an interview in a dress with red shoes. But that's just me.

Best of luck to you, Wendy! :thumbup


Hopefully this turns into a thread about people that can get a job/promotion regardless of a deep recession! :thumbup

but you'd look *so* good in a little black dress and red shoes

k, went back yesterday for round two, and they gave me a walk around the facility. I'm hoping that's a good sign :thumbup

Now I have to go back on Monday for round bloody three, and then a phone interview with the controller on Wednesday who is on the east coast all next week but doesn't want to hold proceedings up.

fingers crossed peeps

let's hope this does end up with some positive job stories all around :thumbup

 

[insyder]

:thumbup You're so in there!

 

[F4iChic]

:thumbup You're so in there!

I so bloody hope you are right

(if not, this will be the biggest piss take I have ever endured in an interview cycle :rofl)

 

[DESMOnic]

yep, 3rd round is a VERY GOOD sign.... short of you pulling some George Costanza move, you are hired!

 

[F4iChic]

yep, 3rd round is a VERY GOOD sign.... short of you pulling some George Costanza move, you are hired!

already pulled that move on round two :rofl

woke up at 2am Friday in the worst agony (cramping) EVER (well, since last month) and could not find any Advil anywhere (damned fool that I am) Did find some aspirin but that was useless against the cramping enemy Puked twice, felt like I was in labour for eight or so hours, then finally the cramps stopped, kinda sorta

Showered, got ready for interview, drove to gas station, filled up, picked up some Tylenol, a bag of crisps, a snickers bar, bottle of water and some gum and headed off to interviews.

Arrived early, parked in a nearby parking lot to change shirts (didn't want to arrive all creased up), popped two tylenol, ate crisps, half of snickers, drank water, had a smoke, popped some gum and drove to interview.

While being interviewed by HR Director, felt my head nodding and had to keep shaking my head to get rid of the tiredness. Spent an hour with her

Next interview with QA Manager, same thing, but relaxed and probably rambling

Drive home doing everything I could not to fall asleep. Get home and Dave has a headache so I give him the other pack of two tylenol I had, and that's when I saw it:

TYLENOL FREAKIN PM :wow

I had taken two sleeping pills half an hour before a two plus hour interview cycle :rofl

No friggin wonder I was out of it. But I made it through with enough flying colours to get to round three. Dayum I am good

(maybe I should do that again today to seal the deal, and then have the final phone interview drunk :rofl)

 

[Melissa]

fabulous news Wendy!!!!!!

 

[F4iChic]

fabulous news Wendy!!!!!!

Thanks Melissa

ding ding round three over and done with. Went well, first guy to interview me was the Marketing Director, he is a Scot, but been here same amount of time as me. We got along well, I think I was able to talk eloquently and knowledgeable about websites being a huge marketing/sales tool and the issues and problems encountered with them and what solutions I have put in place.

Second guy was the COO.......went well there too, got my point over about architecting being very important, not just building stuff :toothless

One more interview to go on Wednesday with the financial controller. Gonna have to impress him wiv me debits/credits/p&l/balance sheet knowledge :loco

HR woman said she wants them all to decide this week who they want, she wants to make an offer Thursday or Friday of this week :wow

sorry for the thread jack Brian :rofl

 

[Cygnus]

we're pullin' for you, Wendizzle!