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So I may be in the market for a new dirty bike, must be CA plated.
Let's share links and first hand knowledge of the modern crop of factory street legal fuel injected dirt bikes.
I am more interested in single track ability with some longer dual sport stuff occasionally. No DR650/XRL or KLR for me.
So, choices...ktm 350, 450 or 500exc
Husky 350 or 501
Beta 350 430rr
Gasgas?
?
I will likely go husky or ktm, I am shy to go too exotic for parts, upgrades and resale.
I currently ride a plated 2007 ktm 400 xcw with a 453 kit. It's been great but...it needs forks and maybe a top end, I also know bikes have come a LONG way in the last 11 years after riding a bunch of them a bit.
A couple of friends have 350s, I like the lightweight part but they feel a little low on power up here at 6k to 9k feet where I ride now. Great on singletrack but I like the grunt of my 453 .
Another friend just got a 2017 450 exc six days and had to spend well over a grand on top of the purchase price to get it right: vortex ecu, intake reed removal, exhaust, desmog, tires, gearing, protection, etc. This 450 has the same bore and stroke as my 07 453, I like that. The 450 is ONLY available in 6 days trim this year, I am not a fan of the flashy bodywork. Six days used to have significant upgrades over the standard model (like forks) but now it has the same Xplor as the standard and it is just minor bolt on and graphics for the extra $$
Big drawback is the newer ktm/ husky can't have the ecu reflashed (easy) like they used to to address the factory lean condition. That makes the older ones (2015 and earlier?) More attractive. Have the chassis and suspension improved to make the new iterations even better to make the ecu issue a minor deal?
I rode a 2013 500exc a few years ago on wide open trails and loved it but I am concerned as I often read about how much more work they are in singletrack.
I don't have a preference on PDS vs linkage rear, I hear good and bad about the 4cs and Xplor forks.
I need to do full side by side spec comparisons but manufacturers make it so difficult to get data on all the data points.
I want to look at what comes closest from the factory as I ultimately want it so I don't have to spend d a lot of $$$ immediately fixing their stupid choices of tires, gearing, etc.
So, if you have read this far, Thank you.
What say BARF, let's discuss new expensive eurobikes.
Let's share links and first hand knowledge of the modern crop of factory street legal fuel injected dirt bikes.
I am more interested in single track ability with some longer dual sport stuff occasionally. No DR650/XRL or KLR for me.
So, choices...ktm 350, 450 or 500exc
Husky 350 or 501
Beta 350 430rr
Gasgas?
?
I will likely go husky or ktm, I am shy to go too exotic for parts, upgrades and resale.
I currently ride a plated 2007 ktm 400 xcw with a 453 kit. It's been great but...it needs forks and maybe a top end, I also know bikes have come a LONG way in the last 11 years after riding a bunch of them a bit.
A couple of friends have 350s, I like the lightweight part but they feel a little low on power up here at 6k to 9k feet where I ride now. Great on singletrack but I like the grunt of my 453 .
Another friend just got a 2017 450 exc six days and had to spend well over a grand on top of the purchase price to get it right: vortex ecu, intake reed removal, exhaust, desmog, tires, gearing, protection, etc. This 450 has the same bore and stroke as my 07 453, I like that. The 450 is ONLY available in 6 days trim this year, I am not a fan of the flashy bodywork. Six days used to have significant upgrades over the standard model (like forks) but now it has the same Xplor as the standard and it is just minor bolt on and graphics for the extra $$
Big drawback is the newer ktm/ husky can't have the ecu reflashed (easy) like they used to to address the factory lean condition. That makes the older ones (2015 and earlier?) More attractive. Have the chassis and suspension improved to make the new iterations even better to make the ecu issue a minor deal?
I rode a 2013 500exc a few years ago on wide open trails and loved it but I am concerned as I often read about how much more work they are in singletrack.
I don't have a preference on PDS vs linkage rear, I hear good and bad about the 4cs and Xplor forks.
I need to do full side by side spec comparisons but manufacturers make it so difficult to get data on all the data points.
I want to look at what comes closest from the factory as I ultimately want it so I don't have to spend d a lot of $$$ immediately fixing their stupid choices of tires, gearing, etc.
So, if you have read this far, Thank you.
What say BARF, let's discuss new expensive eurobikes.
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