Navy Seals and Marines charged with Murder of Green Beret

HappyHighwayman

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Climber said:
I don't buy for a second that they were 'hazing' him. This was a kill from the start.

They deserve the death penalty.
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It's sort of a form of treason to kill your own. I don't believe in death penalty but I think treason can have capital punishment.
 
byke

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Article presents itself so oddly that I thought it was a different story. Nope, it's the same one where our finest men murdered the guy that was going to turn them in for stealing.
 
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Treason? We're not talking Benedict Arnold here.

From the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
918. ARTICLE 118. MURDER
10. Punitive Articles
Any person subject to this chapter whom without justification or excuse, unlawfully kills a human being, when he- –

(1) has a premeditated design to kill;

(2) intends to kill or inflict great bodily harm;

(3) is engaged in an act which is inherently dangerous to others and evinces a wanton disregard of human life; or

(4) is engaged in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of burglary, sodomy, rape, robbery, or aggravated arson;

is guilty of murder, and shall suffer such punishment as a court-martial may direct, except that if found guilty under clause (1) or (4), he shall suffer death or imprisonment for life as a court-martial may direct.
 
Kornholio

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While it doesn't always go as far as this incident did, shit like this happens ALL THE TIME in the Army. I saw so many incidents similar to this (save for the death part) while overseas. The Army is full of corrupt assholes all up and down the ranks and even though your superiors encourage you to "rat out" your own when you know they're doing shit like this, it rarely happens for this exact reason.
 
HappyHighwayman

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The only thing that makes no sense is why would they take him for medical treatment instead of cleaning up the scene. And even if they weren't lying about just pranking him, what do they think the punishment for professional highly trained soldiers robbing and beating a fellow serviceman?
 
pyramidhead

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Kornholio said:
While it doesn't always go as far as this incident did, shit like this happens ALL THE TIME in the Army. I saw so many incidents similar to this (save for the death part) while overseas. The Army is full of corrupt assholes all up and down the ranks and even though your superiors encourage you to "rat out" your own when you know they're doing shit like this, it rarely happens for this exact reason.
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yup. "snitches get stitches" might as well be a fucking AR.
 
afm199

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HappyHighwayman said:
The only thing that makes no sense is why would they take him for medical treatment instead of cleaning up the scene. And even if they weren't lying about just pranking him, what do they think the punishment for professional highly trained soldiers robbing and beating a fellow serviceman?
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I assume they hope to haze and intimidate him, probably in a moment of drunken epiphany, and it did not turn out as they planned. They took him for treatment because they knew full well that whatever happened would be more pleasant that spending the rest of their lives at Leavenworth, Kansas.
 
Climber

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Kornholio said:
While it doesn't always go as far as this incident did, shit like this happens ALL THE TIME in the Army. I saw so many incidents similar to this (save for the death part) while overseas. The Army is full of corrupt assholes all up and down the ranks and even though your superiors encourage you to "rat out" your own when you know they're doing shit like this, it rarely happens for this exact reason.
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I worked on an air force base several summers when I was a student, I know it's politically correct to hold military members in high esteem, and there are plenty of people who should be held in high esteem, but there is also a portion of the military who are absolute scum and are/were/would be criminals in civilian life.
 
HappyHighwayman

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Climber said:
I worked on an air force base several summers when I was a student, I know it's politically correct to hold military members in high esteem, and there are plenty of people who should be held in high esteem, but there is also a portion of the military who are absolute scum and are/were/would be criminals in civilian life.
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In my experience, the military is a pretty accurate cross-section of American population.

I served in the USAF for 8 years and saw racists, sexist, ignorance, assholes, etc. and criminals (drug dealers, car thieves, embezzlers) in about the same percentage I have encountered in the 29 years of civilian life since I got out.

My brother did 23 years in the Army and has been retired about that same length of time and he says the same thing about the Army.
 
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