Navy Hospital ship may have hit the Arizona.
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maxandgrinch
Acquired Taste
DMV lines will move slower out of respect and there is a $5 'Repair the wetland part of Arizona,' now being assessed on all transactions, but it doubles the length of annual registrations.
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while have no personal experience with anything to do with the story
doesn't it seem a bit emotional and shortsighted to leave a derelict blocking Pearl Harbor?
doesn't it seem a bit emotional and shortsighted to leave a derelict blocking Pearl Harbor?
Yakoo752
USN
Fuck.
I've pulled in there with a Nimitz-class carrier. Slightly larger than the hospital ships. It's a tight squeeze, but manageable. Sad that the maneuvering team screwed this one up. Gawd, of all the places to be a hundred yards off course.
I'd say it was the Tug crew and not the maneuvering crew
I doubt they were under sail
Yakoo752
USN
It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. I've only been on submarines but once a tug took lines the safety of the vessel belongs to them.
Mike95060
Work In Progress
"Abandon in place" has a purpose. Humans need reminders of our past mistakes and accomplishments. I'm ok with waiting until the sea dissolves the tomb of those sailors.
Sharky
Well-known member
Its a tomb for 1500 men.
Eldritch
is insensitive
If there is one thing Americans are wildly sentimental about, it is WWII. The Arizona is our most sacred WWII monument. It holds our honored dead and is the starting point of our great war. There is no room there to be practical.
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I can appreciate the significance of the site. I respect what it represents.
just remember for second we cleared Ground Zero completely to build a new tower we didn't build on top of the wreckage.
we also cleared the wreckage of all the other ships
Johndicezx9
Rolls with it...
The "footprints" of the towers are memorial pools, the foundations of the original towers remain as part of it.
MrIncredible
Is fintastic
The captain is going to get it for this. It's his vessel and the safety falls to him-if the tugs were pushing him off course, he should've caught it and brought it to their attention.
Yakoo752
USN
yeah, when we slammed into the dock in Diego Garcia and caused a few M in damage - the Brit Tug Captain got fired and skipper didn't
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I just speak from wardroom experience ymmv
The Captain is responsible for the ship BUT not for its navigation (in the harbor). Once a pilot is embarked, which happens long before entering any harbor, the Captain relinquishes responsibilty for the navigation and handling, although the helm/steering is still done by, in this case Navy or Merchant Marine sailors.
As far as the ship being "under sail", it is possible (likely with a ship this size) that they still use ships propulsion in the manuevering.
I have been in and out of Pearl many times on an Aegis Cruiser. It is pretty tight to make that turn for a huge ship and those hospital ships are huge, and ungainly.
The USS Arizona Memorial is not a tourist attraction, a monument or anything of the sort.
It is a tomb and a memorial. Full Stop.
As far as the ship being "under sail", it is possible (likely with a ship this size) that they still use ships propulsion in the manuevering.
I have been in and out of Pearl many times on an Aegis Cruiser. It is pretty tight to make that turn for a huge ship and those hospital ships are huge, and ungainly.
The USS Arizona Memorial is not a tourist attraction, a monument or anything of the sort.
It is a tomb and a memorial. Full Stop.
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It is absolutely a tourist attraction and a monument. It's also a tomb and a memorial.