Motorcycle Transportation Permit - They ARE real! Pics!

Not Sure

I like money.
So I know there are threads on this and it has been discussed thoroughly, but I wanted to tell a recent story about my journey to attain the permit.

Bought an out-of-state titled, currently unregistered, track only bike in November.

After researching about the permit, and printing out the dmv form found here:

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/c...498b-8d7c-e8c052c36e78/reg712.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

I took my form and title to the Pleasanton DMV.

The first person who helped me, had no idea of the permit and had never heard of it before and was ready to dismiss the idea entirely as if I had been misinformed.

Bam! I pulled out their own DMV form and presented evidence that it DOES exist and that I was not talking crazy.

Supervisor is called, and I was asked to sit down and wait patiently while they researched the issue together.

After the supervisor went in the back and asked the "lady who has been there for A HUNDRED years" (he literally said as much), he was unable to find the form.

At this point, both DMV employees were quite pleasant with me and actually looking at this like a challenge as opposed to a wild goose chase. They ask me to wait some more, while they brought out "The green book".

Green book in hand, plus my printed out form, they took both back to the "lady who has been there for A HUNDRED years".

Hundred year old lady finds the part in the system that bills 20$ for it, so they charge my card $20 and proceed to scour "The green book".

The book says they should have the sticker, but it is not anywhere to be found.

Ah ha! They find, in the green book, that they no longer issue the stickers locally but they can be attained through the "special vehicle division" in Sacramento.

So, they give me a form to sign, a receipt of my $20 and make a little package that they put in an envelope to send off.

"You should get a sticker in 3 months or less". I should call if I never recieve anything from the "special vehicle division".

I cross my fingers and wait.

On 2/18/2016 I get this in the mail, from Sacramento:

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It's REAL SEE!!!
 

bikeama

Super Moderator
Staff member
Not hard to find on line. I wonder how many have this? I do know that about 3 years ago the state was checking for them at short track race at Prairie City. A lot of mad racers that day.
 

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FXCLM5

bombaclaud
Bs, when will they require me to have a permit for transporting every living body in my vehicle....
 

KittenMeat

Life: It's Terminal!
this is pretty wicked stupid that we have this, but then again californias legal system resembles the dystopian fascist state from the movie, Brazil. Good on you for figuring it out!
 

berth

Well-known member
"You should get a sticker in 3 months or less". I should call if I never recieve anything from the "special vehicle division".

Imagine the joy of having to wait 3 months to find out if you have to start it all over again.

On 2/18/2016 I get this in the mail, from Sacramento:

So, do you ensticker that to the bike or what?
 

TheRiddler

Riddle me this.
I got one of those in 2011. Just followed the process in the BARF thread and the Davis DMV found a bunch of them, hidden in a dusty closet somewhere.
 

Not Sure

I like money.
The back of the sticker says something about affixing it to an easily accessible/viewable area on the bike.

For me personally, since the bike was an out of state but already black flagged bike (tried to be registered in CA with 3k miles), and a track only bike... it was to have a piece of mind that someone (CHP) could not just confiscate it because it has no legit paperwork. I transport it in an enclosed van, but better safe than sorry (or out of a bike)!
 

FXCLM5

bombaclaud
there was some article that i read about how since we pay to register our vehicles to be able to operate them on public roads,

we dont actually own these vehicles since we cannot operate them on any type of private roads to get anywhere

its kind of a lease from the gov, saying hey now that you paid me the annual dues - you can operate this vehicle that "you own" - but still all on my terms. For example buy a car that can go 155mph, too bad you can only go 70mph tops.
 

ToxicMark

The dose makes the poison
Op, this was my experience too. I finally got one after my third attempt at the DMV. They hadn't a clue the permit existed. The nice thing about it is now you don't have to non-op your bike evar.
 

SFSV650

The Slowest Sprotbike™
there was some article that i read about how since we pay to register our vehicles to be able to operate them on public roads,

we dont actually own these vehicles since we cannot operate them on any type of private roads to get anywhere

its kind of a lease from the gov, saying hey now that you paid me the annual dues - you can operate this vehicle that "you own" - but still all on my terms. For example buy a car that can go 155mph, too bad you can only go 70mph tops.

In theory there's nothing stopping you from creating a private roadway. If you have the cash, you might be able to make a private stretch of autobahn from SF to Cupertino and charge handsomely for the privilege of using it at whatever speed the property owners deem appropriate. :dunno
 

Sticka

I am the Stig
Op, this was my experience too. I finally got one after my third attempt at the DMV. They hadn't a clue the permit existed. The nice thing about it is now you don't have to non-op your bike evar.

Are you saying that this permit means that expired tags will not accrue additional penalties?

I thought that it just allowed you to move a non-op'd vehicle.
 

RickM

Well-known member
Op, this was my experience too. I finally got one after my third attempt at the DMV. They hadn't a clue the permit existed. The nice thing about it is now you don't have to non-op your bike evar.

Mark, I don't think that's true. The penalties still keep accruing and have to be paid to get tags or even transfer title. "Non-op"/PNO is relatively cheap and is only a one time fee
 

99SH

Well-known member
^ wasn't my interpretation. A PNO is just a "barn-yard" bike; doesn't get used, trailered on public roads, etc. In my eyes, you can't have it both ways. You either non-op it, or op it as a race bike and allowed to tow.
 
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