Mishaps on the road

[Gary856]

Last Saturday, on the return leg from Patterson on Del Puerto Canyon Rd, my Multistrada 1200 handled badly. I stopped and found the rear tire soft and visibly sagging, probably had less than 20 psi in it. I turned around and headed back toward Patterson, about 7 miles away. I rode at around 35-40 mph - wanted get to Patterson before the leaky tire got completely flat, but not too fast to lose control, overheat the tire or bend the wheel. By the time I got to the Chevron station in Patterson, the rear tire was pretty hot to the touch, and the entire tread surface looked slightly melted. So I aired up and took 580/680 home, 88 miles away. I didn’t have a gauge so I went by feel how much air to put in – enough to last for a while, but not too much to blow up the tire. Each time the bike felt great with a hard rear tire. I’d go up to 80 mph for a few minutes to make time, and gradually slow to 60 mph as I guessed-felt the tire got softer, before stopping for another gas station. I aired up 3 more times at gas stations along the way, every 18-20 miles or so. It was after dark, and some stretches of freeway along Altamont Pass and Sunol Grade had no gas stations, so it was kind of iffy during the 2-hr ride home.

I didn’t realize it until thinking back from this latest episode that I’ve had a number of mishaps on the road over the 10 years I’ve been riding. In contrast, I can’t think of the last time I had any problem with a 4-wheeled vehicle on the road. I guess this means riding is more demanding, I’ve made more bad decisions while riding, and bikes are less dependable than cars.

What mishaps have you experienced while riding? Who/what’s to blame? What did you learn each time?

I’ll update my list later.

 

[ST Guy]

Mishap #1....no patch kit or pump on board?

And based on your description of the tire, it's toast.

 

[davidji]

Mishaps? I've had my share of flat tires. Well I've been told I've had more than my share.

For the first flat, I remembered transferring my flat repair stuff from previous bike to the one I was riding, but when I pulled over to fix the flat my pump wasn't there. I got the bike to a gas station, and plugged and inflated it there.

I later found the pump in my garage.

I once rode 8 miles on a flat to get to a good place to repair it. Normally I do it as soon as possible.

I've had mishaps driving too. Had a radiator fail on a recent road trip. Stop leak got me home. Had a front tire sidewall get a tear way outside of cell phone range, but I had an inflated, full sized spare. I was glad I wasn't driving a Miata or similar that only had a plug kit for tire repair.

With a similar front tire failure on a bike, a crash seems likely, and the lack of ability to repair it might not have been my biggest problem.

 

[dravnx]

Wow, 80 mph with a damaged tire? You got brass ones.

 

[ST Guy]

I could tell the tale of the defective thermostat that stranded me out in the middle of Oregon once and the tow and the subsequent craziness once I got to Bend trying to find a place to stay, get a rental car, pulling the bike apart to get the carbs off to access the blown coolant hose, how Honda didn't have the part and I cut one down from heater hose I found at a local auto supply store to the repair itself and getting back on the road by noon the next day. And don't forget the lack of the proper driver to remove the carbs which I had to fab from tools bought from Sears and modified with the help of a local dental lab.

But it's a long tale so I will refrain.

 

[davidji]

Wow, 80 mph with a damaged tire? You got brass ones.

In my 8 miles on a flat incident, I was leaned in a sweeper at 80MPH indicated when I heard a bang in back. Handling changed, but remained reasonable enough at speed, and of course very squirrelly when speeds were low.

It was night and I wanted light, and it was when I carried a bike pump rather than a compressor, so I rode to the nearest gas station I knew. Now, with a compressor on board, I hope I'd stop sooner.

 

[ST Guy]

....I've had mishaps driving too. Had a radiator fail on a recent road trip. Stop leak got me home. Had a front tire sidewall get a tear way outside of cell phone range, but I had an inflated, full sized spare. I was glad I wasn't driving a Miata or similar that only had a plug kit for tire repair...

Reminds me of a drive I took out to the Lost Coast with a couple friends. I was driving my JCW Mini and hit a big pothole in the road that was hidden in the shadows. Blew out the sidewalls of the two right side tires. First challenge was finding a phone to call for a tow. (No spares and certainly not two spares.) Then the nearly 3 hour wait for the truck while a local in a golf cart and a big can of beer motors out to see what we're doing. Then the winching of my car up on the truck and the hydraulic system springs a big leak and spews hydraulic fluid all over the hot muffler of the truck. I expected it to go up in flames at any second. Then the 2+ drive back to town with tales of people disappearing up there if they ventured off the main road. Then the problem of getting my car off the truck since the hydraulic system wasn't working. (Backed another truck to the first, transferred the car to the second truck, then off the second truck.) And it goes on.

 

[ichabodnt650]

some of the locations where you ventured off the beaten path may have broken glass, nails, screws, goat heads, hypodermic needles, angry porcupines ...

 

[dittoalex]

That reminds me to buy a TPMS on Amazon.

 

[ctwo]

Wow, 80 mph with a damaged tire? You got brass ones.

Is it right that if the mass of the contact patch is 1/4 lb, centrifugal force is then about 100 lb?

 

[Honey Badger]

I've had more flat tires than I can actually remember on bikes by this point - I've had my "cars" get slow leaks, but nothing that turned into a full-on flat. Besides the fact that there's always a spare with me in the truck LOL.

Random things include electrical issues.

That being said, outside of flat tires, I've been left stranded more often by my truck/tow vehicle (or close to it) than I have on one of my bikes. Did have a starter take a dump on my "street" bike last year, but I happened to be at a track day that day, so it wasn't that big of a deal.

 

[budman]

Bike...

Front flat.. scary. Glad I was only going 35.
Back flat not scary, but all of a sudden felt like a strong wind.

Ladder in roadway.. got thrown up.. I did not know which way to go.. settled on the ground and I stood up and MX'd over it.

Car:
Tire blew (RR) and I went sideways on 101.. very. Gathered it in and made it to the shoulder in one piece riding basically on a rim.

HD piece of wire pierced my radiator and car overheated quickly.
Thank goodness it was in my car because that could have impaled and seriously injured or killed a rider.

 

[Gary856]

Wow, 80 mph with a damaged tire? You got brass ones.

The judgment call is sometimes iffy when it’s dark and you’re far from home.

I could tell the tale of the defective thermostat that stranded me out in the middle of Oregon

Reminds me of a drive I took out to the Lost Coast with a couple friends. I was driving my JCW Mini and hit a big pothole

Those rough ones make good stories.

some of the locations where you ventured off the beaten path may have broken glass, nails, screws, goat heads, hypodermic needles, angry porcupines ...

Which brings up an interesting point – this was the second puncher I got on the Angel GT that didn’t involve a nail/screw/bolt. Makes me wonder if some tires are significantly more/less puncher resistant than others; haven't seen that mentioned in tire reviews. So instead of ordering another set of Angels (which I like a lot but wears pretty fast - right side of the front tire on the Multi is bald after 4.2k miles @ 34 psi) I ordered a set of Bridgestone T31 instead.

 

[dittoalex]

Would a small bottle of tire sealant have allowed you to deal with the leak without multiple stops?

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[banshee01]

I had a screw shred my rear tube on the wr250r. We were on panoche rd in the dirt coming back from shaver lake camping trip. Luckily I had spare tubes so we swapped it right there.

When I first bought my used wr250r I was riding through Yosemite on a camping trip. By chain came apart or broke not sure which. Lost the master link. Put a spare one and went on my way. 850 miles no problem but then riding at Hollister hills I lost 2 teeth on my 4th gear pinion. When the chain came off it got bound up in the counter sprocket.

I have seen a few tire problems and broken clutch cables on our camping trips. I always carry spare cables for that reason when going that far

 

[Escape pod]

Break it good

Having a conversation with friend about his hunting trip:

"Got two flats in the desert! .. I'm driving my brothers VW Jetta he's asleep in passenger seat; ..it is 2AM.
I'm driving 65 on what seems to be a endless flat desert road, pitch black of night. So many jackrabbits!

They jump on the road right in front of ya, Constantly running over them ..bu dump, ..bu dump, bu dump. I tried steering ~ to miss them, didn't seem to help! Got tired of that so I tried steering ~at them for ° then, ~BOOM ^ the passengers side of the Jetta was high in the air, ..almost rolled it! Came to a emergency stop.

What did you hit?
Got out to take a look. A full size wheel and rim. :x Flattened and Squared the two Jetta rims.
Only one spare... Brother wasn't impressed."

:ride

 

[Whammy]

Bike never stranded me yet... ohh wait does running out of gas on the way home, and eeking into a gas station on fumes count?
Forgot my wallet that day, and had to wait for someone at home to bring me my wallet.

Car. I hit a monstrous rock while doing 75 mph on 680 south at top of the Sunol grade just before Vargas.
Was in the number 3 lane with cars to both sides, and no place to go. wham ,pop, bang car lifted off the ground.
By some grace of the almighty I stayed straight and coasted to the shoulder where I was then escorted to the nearby off ramp by a alert CHP officer.
Twas a harrowing experience to get a tow truck to take me home. total time was from 5pm till 10pm.
The first tow truck ON Star sent me was a complete boob, and he had no way of getting the car up on the flatbed.
This monkey from a local Fremont towing company tried to break some wood off he found on the side of the road, and stick it on the edge of the flatbed then asked if he could drive it up.
I said nope you are excused, you can not properly lift this car there is no way you get this tow. Be gone I said.
Frustrated I called AAA. Expert towing at its finest. Should of been my first call but if you have on star ya you go with that.
FYI when you have one off wheels on your car good luck getting a replacement any time soon.
The car sat for three and a half months while MHT made me one new wheel.

 

[Karbon]

Lost a CCT and bent exhaust valve.
Roached exhaust vales due to tight lash.
Myriad of electrical from R/R, stator, batteries
Wheel bearings.
Water pump issues.

Major lesson. If your bike is your primary, don't skip on maintnance checks. Keep your shit wired tight enough and you can pull 125k miles and keep going on a late 90's bike.

 

[budman]

You reminded me of one more from my youth.

My RD 350 lost an expansion chamber on Skyline at about 75mph.

All I noted was the exhaust note changing dramatically. Wimped it home and bought new upswept black chambers that were really sweet. So in the end a win.

 

[Beanzy]

Broke off a pedal!

Fortunately I anticipated losing one and carried a spare. As luck would have it, somebody knew how to install it and did a great job too.